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Problem with PCR - (Aug/09/2005 )

Hi , I`m first time on this forum

I've been doing PCR cloning with a gene for about three months.
the size of gene is 2283 bp ,so i separate it into two parts (each part about 1.5kb) and thinks to ligate them to get a full length.
i can easily get the C' terminal part,but not with N'
i've tried lots of methods,like : change primers;change annealing temp.;change polymerase (Hot start, Amplitaq gold, GC rich);adding DMSO (2% ,5%,10%) or BSA or Mg2+......but!!! still, i can`t get the product i want

anyone's advice would be appreciated !

P.S this gene is on the list of MGC clone (100% match) ,but my boss wants me to clone it myself.....i've been trapped for half year sad.gif

-Dopa-

Are you getting aspecific product or just nothing at all?

Have you tried to amplify the entire gene in one PCR, it should be possible, I routinely PCR 4 kb...

-vairus-

No hairpin? Try to check the secondary structure of your oligos and if there is no strong primer dimer. But I think the best way it is to amplify the entire gene

-Tomy-

QUOTE (vairus @ Aug 9 2005, 02:36 AM)
Are you getting aspecific product or just nothing at all?

Have you tried to amplify the entire gene in one PCR, it should be possible, I routinely PCR 4 kb...


I always get aspecific product. The primers I used were designe by Mac Vector (a program) ,theoretically there shoud be no problem with primer dimer or hairpin structure.
Can you tell me how to amplify a long distance gene?(protocol and kit)
Our lab routinely amplify genes that are shorter than 1kb.
Thanks a lot!!

-Dopa-

QUOTE (Tomy @ Aug 9 2005, 07:44 AM)
No hairpin? Try to check the secondary structure of your oligos and if there is no strong  primer dimer. But I think the best way it is to amplify the entire gene

Yeah , no hairpin. I've used four pairs of primers, didn`t work, always get nonspecific product.
Can you give me some advice about improving the specificity or amplifying long distance gene? I have no experience in amplifying a gene longer than 1.5kb><

thanks anyway!

-Dopa-