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trouble with TOPO TA CLONING KIT for SEQUENCING - (Jul/31/2005 )

Hi all,
I have been trying to clone my PCR insert using TOPO TA CLONING KIT for SEQUENCING. I get hundreds of colonies on ampicillin plates when I use my glycerol stocks. According to invitrogen protocol only positive colonies should show up on the amp plates but when I try to cut out my insert from the plasmid (using Eco.R1, that should cut in front and at the back of my insert) , I get only one band on the gel and that too of the size of the plasmid. I do not know what’s going on. Can anyone suggest something?
Everything and anything helps. Thanks in advance.

-teetlee2003-

Which polymerase or polymerase-mixture are you using? Sure it leaves an A overhang?
Apart from that, try blue/white-screening, check your competent cells if you have to induce or not. This way you can cut down on the number of clones you have to check.
How much PCR-product do you add? Too much isn't good for your topo-reaction.

What do you mean with hundreds of colonies when using glycerol stock? You glycerol-stock your PCR-product? or you did topo, grew colonies, made glycerol-stock and afterwards regrew them and checked them for insertion?
Or are they other bacteria and you use these as a control for amp in your plates?

-vairus-

QUOTE (teetlee2003 @ Jul 31 2005, 10:38 PM)
Hi all,
          I have been trying to clone my PCR insert using TOPO TA CLONING KIT for SEQUENCING. I get hundreds of colonies on ampicillin plates when I use my glycerol stocks. According to invitrogen protocol only positive colonies should show up on the amp plates but when I try to cut out my insert from the plasmid (using Eco.R1, that should cut in front and at the back of my insert) , I get only one band on the gel and that too of the size of the plasmid. I do not know what’s going on. Can anyone suggest something?
Everything and anything helps. Thanks in advance.

Hi,
I get good number of colonies after I regrow the colonies using glycerol stocks of my cloned E.coli. Since I use the TA kit the Taq polymerase adds the A overhangs. I use 3-4 microlitres of my PCR product.
Thanks

-teetlee2003-

As vairus suggested, I would use the blue/white screening. Plate 40ul of a 40% X-gal solution on your Amp plate prior to plating your cells and only clones that contain your insert will be white.

-AnkleLizard-

I use white-blue method as well. And it works very good for me.

-freshman-uk-

Just remember that if your PCR product is very small or in frame you may still get blue colonies on X-Gal plates

Daniel

Longer automated DNA sequencing reads

-Daniel Tillett-

QUOTE (freshman-uk @ Aug 2 2005, 06:46 AM)
I use white-blue method as well. And it works very good for me.

Hi, I have a long insert (1200bps). Is it possible that the bacteria can kick the insert out?

-teetlee2003-

I've done succesfull topoTA with the same kit up to 3,8 kb, so it shouldn't be a problem unless your gene is toxic to e. coli maybe?

-vairus-

If you have primer dimers in your PCR then you can end up cloning these. Also the 5' nucleotide on your primers affects the efficiency of the 3' A overhang added- you might have chosen a primer(s) that don't add 3'A overhangs efficiently.

Daniel

DNA sequencing analysis software

-Daniel Tillett-