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Direct immunodetection within SDS-PAGE GEl? - Is it possible? (Sep/24/2008 )

Dear all,

I would like to know is it possible to conduct the direct immunodetection within SDS-PAGE gel? What are the reasons or factors that make it impossible?

Although I found there are some kits for direct immunodetection within SDS-PAGE gel (Pierce), the gel was pre-treated (Not same as original SDS-PAGE gel). I would like to know the reason behind.


Many thanks.

BC

-peggybee1-

QUOTE (peggybee1 @ Sep 24 2008, 07:20 PM)
Dear all,

I would like to know is it possible to conduct the direct immunodetection within SDS-PAGE gel? What are the reasons or factors that make it impossible?

Although I found there are some kits for direct immunodetection within SDS-PAGE gel (Pierce), the gel was pre-treated (Not same as original SDS-PAGE gel). I would like to know the reason behind.


Many thanks.

BC


I don't know the mechanism behind the kit.

I think we don't normally do direct immunodetection on original SDS-PAGE gel due to protein diffusion in the gel.

Hope this may help.

-Minnie Mouse-

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I think we don't normally do direct immunodetection on original SDS-PAGE gel due to protein diffusion in the gel.


And also the protein is three dimensional spread in the gel, if you transfer it to a membran, it is "flat" in two dimensions, so the antibody has easier access to a bigger surface of protein. Antibodies can not invade the gel and bind efficiently to the protein in the PAGE-matrix.

I don't know this kit, you have to tell us more so that we can conclude how it works.

-biomaus-

QUOTE (biomaus @ Sep 24 2008, 11:30 PM)
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I think we don't normally do direct immunodetection on original SDS-PAGE gel due to protein diffusion in the gel.


And also the protein is three dimensional spread in the gel, if you transfer it to a membran, it is "flat" in two dimensions, so the antibody has easier access to a bigger surface of protein. Antibodies can not invade the gel and bind efficiently to the protein in the PAGE-matrix.

I don't know this kit, you have to tell us more so that we can conclude how it works.


I don't agree with you. When the proteins were treated with SDS and merca,.all proteins should be denatured and became primary in structure...

-peggybee1-

QUOTE (peggybee1 @ Sep 24 2008, 06:20 PM)
Dear all,

I would like to know is it possible to conduct the direct immunodetection within SDS-PAGE gel? What are the reasons or factors that make it impossible?

Although I found there are some kits for direct immunodetection within SDS-PAGE gel (Pierce), the gel was pre-treated (Not same as original SDS-PAGE gel). I would like to know the reason behind.


Many thanks.

BC


you need much longer incubation times as the gel matrix hinders the diffusion of antibodies into the gel...

-The Bearer-

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I don't agree with you. When the proteins were treated with SDS and merca,.all proteins should be denatured and became primary in structure...


I was not referring to the protein 2- or 3-dimensional structure but the distribution all over the gel matrix. And as the gel has a depth of 0.75 cm or 1cm, the proteins are not distributed in 2 dimensions but 3. Sure they should be in primary structure.

-biomaus-