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How many bases should be added to end of enzyme in PCR for effective cutting - (Jun/02/2008 )

I am cloning a Bacmid and have made primers with and addition of a specific restriction enzyme which corresponds to the insert I want to use later. My forward primer has 3 bases before the enzyme and the reverse primer has 6 bases before the enzyme therefore these will be extra bases outside of the cut site once I do a digest of the PCR product. Does anyone know how many bases I should have on the ends to get a good cut. I have tried to digest my PCR product and self ligate but have had no luck. Any suggestions would be appreciated. smile.gif

-alabgeek-

QUOTE (alabgeek @ Jun 2 2008, 04:59 PM)
I am cloning a Bacmid and have made primers with and addition of a specific restriction enzyme which corresponds to the insert I want to use later. My forward primer has 3 bases before the enzyme and the reverse primer has 6 bases before the enzyme therefore these will be extra bases outside of the cut site once I do a digest of the PCR product. Does anyone know how many bases I should have on the ends to get a good cut. I have tried to digest my PCR product and self ligate but have had no luck. Any suggestions would be appreciated. smile.gif


That depends upon the enzyme. you can check a table in NEB catalog.

-cellcounter-

Try here

-molgen-

6 extra bases is the general rule - that should cover any digest. Excessive maybe but for the price of a couple of extra bases, save the hassle.

-killerkoz17-

Except for a few, like NdeI, that need more than six. I use 10. As you say, they are cheap. Don't forget that if you have a double digestion, this is also the minimum distance between the two cut sites (in a multiple cloning site, for example).

-phage434-

QUOTE (phage434 @ Jun 5 2008, 07:06 AM)
Except for a few, like NdeI, that need more than six. I use 10. As you say, they are cheap. Don't forget that if you have a double digestion, this is also the minimum distance between the two cut sites (in a multiple cloning site, for example).

Could you post the others Phage? Do you have a source of this information or is it just experience?

Cheers, Rob

-killerkoz17-

Thank you everyone for your great suggestions. The enzyme I am using is BSU36l and I understand it does not ligate well at the best of times. I looked on the NEB web site but did not find it listed there for number of extra base pairs. I will definitely try the suggestions made for using 6-10 extra bases. Thanks a lot.

Alabgeek

-alabgeek-

NotI is the other common one. See here:
http://www.neb.com/nebecomm/tech_reference...nucleotides.asp

-phage434-

QUOTE (phage434 @ Jun 6 2008, 04:29 AM)

Hmm, interesting. Never seen any more than 6 extra bases before. I do clone with NdeI and NotI often enough though with 6 flanking bases and don't recall many problems. Thanks for the info, i'll keep it in mind.

-killerkoz17-