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advice on DNA extraxtion: boiling method - (Aug/22/2007 )

hello,
i am trying to identify marine bacteria from sponge and i am using 16S rRNA gene analysis.
my problem is that there are 2 method used to extract the DNA
1) direct colony PCR
2) boiling method
the result that i get was not very satisfied due to smearing and more than 1 band.
can someone help me or give me some advice.....PLEASEEEEEEEE........ sad.gif

-furdunesia-

QUOTE (furdunesia @ Aug 22 2007, 10:01 AM)
hello,
i am trying to identify marine bacteria from sponge and i am using 16S rRNA gene analysis.
my problem is that there are 2 method used to extract the DNA
1) direct colony PCR
2) boiling method
the result that i get was not very satisfied due to smearing and more than 1 band.
can someone help me or give me some advice.....PLEASEEEEEEEE........ sad.gif


What do you want: RNA or DNA

When you want to check rRNA you have to make RNA isolation and check by gelelectrophoresis
When you want to check DNA content: you can make colony PCR or boiling method. i think in boiling buffer is RNAse?

-moljul-

The problem is likely the PCR cycling conditions rather than the DNA sample. You could also be adding too much template, a common problem. Less is more. Try reducing the template amount and raising the annealing temperature (or a gradient PCR if you can do it).

-phage434-

thanks for the advice. i will try and report back after i continue my lab work here. thanks. if there any other suggestion, i will surely appreciate it.

-furdunesia-

because you boil your colony, so there might be some other 'junk' in the genomic you extracted. when you do PCR, these "junks"might have effect on the PCR.
i used to do the exactly same thing as you. boil colony and PCR 16s rRNA. same thing happen. my primers are very specific but i couldn't get any band. after that i add PCR additive in my PCR mixture (mixture contains 10% glycerol, 10% DMSO, 10% formamide)... add 25% of PCR additive mixture into PCR reaction. then, my PCR has a very good yield.
works well for me everytime i PCR. it never fails me.

-sanjiun81-

QUOTE (sanjiun81 @ Aug 23 2007, 06:59 PM)
because you boil your colony, so there might be some other 'junk' in the genomic you extracted. when you do PCR, these "junks"might have effect on the PCR.
i used to do the exactly same thing as you. boil colony and PCR 16s rRNA. same thing happen. my primers are very specific but i couldn't get any band. after that i add PCR additive in my PCR mixture (mixture contains 10% glycerol, 10% DMSO, 10% formamide)... add 25% of PCR additive mixture into PCR reaction. then, my PCR has a very good yield.
works well for me everytime i PCR. it never fails me.


now thats interesting. can u tell me a bit more about it. how the PCR additive's component function during the process. and thus the pcr additive can be used the same way if i'm going to do colony-pcr. how about if we put proteinase K?

-furdunesia-