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Can bacteria grow without a plasmid or am i stupid? - or did ampicillin wear out? (Jun/20/2007 )

I am trying to clone PCR products in to TOPO vector. I am using Invitrogen TOPO-TA cloning kit. its the PCR4-TOPO. The problem is, i ligated the pcr product in to topo vector, transformed (here i used a control plasmid too i.e. puc19) and grow the bacteria. I saw colonies the next day in the pcu19 control (where the number of colonies are more) and the pcr ligated topo plates. The plates have 100ug/ml ampicilin. Then i grow the culture in liquid LB ON at 37 deg in 5 ml and tried to do miniprep (i am using quick plasmid kit from invitrogen) to extract plasmid and ran the gel, i am seeing bands only in the puc19 controls and not in the pcr ligated sample lane. I am also seeing a very faint band in both puc19 control and sample at 12kb...could it be genomic DNA? How could bacteria grow with out plasmid? or am i missing something here? Please help me

-polsum-

Ampicilin degrade with time. Ampicilin also degrades faster when exposed to high temperature. Was the Amp stocks defrosted using high temperature, or perhaps were the plates old?

I wouldn't use plates more then 2 weeks old.

-perneseblue-

quite true, As ampicillin degrades, this promotes growth of the all bacteria which don't have the resistance gene.

-scolix-

You could check your plates by streaking out untransformed competent E. coli, which should give you no colonies if your plates (and competent cells too) are OK.

-ellis-77-

QUOTE (perneseblue @ Jun 20 2007, 12:27 PM)
I wouldn't use plates more then 2 weeks old.

i make above 100 amp plates together and store it in 4c refrigerator and use for months

-T. reesei-

I think so Amp

-Najib-