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Purification and cloing of large fragments - cloning (Dec/08/2006 )

I was trying to clone a 10kb fragment into a 12kb vector, but had no luck. Any suggestions? One of the problems I had is that I can never get a good yield with the Qiagen gel extraction kit. I aslo tried QiaEXII, but it gave me similar yields. Also what ligation kit, competent cells do people usually use?

Many thanks!

-hpeng031-

I feel Qiagen kit is OK.
You might elute DNA with water or 1/10 elution buffer in 30 ul, if necessary, dry DNA then dissovled in less amount water for increasing DNA concentration before ligation

-rye-

i would use Genehog in a situation like this. Also go for electroporation rather then chemical transformation. As the parent vector is significantly smaller then the vector+insert plasmid, any self ligated plasmid is more likely to transform. You need the better transformation efficiency of electroporation to over come this bias.

As for fragment recovery, a labmate of mine, simply takes the hit in recovery efficiency (as column purification is so convenient). He simply begins with far more DNA then needed, losses a bit but still ends up with enough DNA to work with.

If the above suggestion is not practical, how about eletrolution? You have virtually 100% recovery, though it takes much much longer then simple column purification.

-perneseblue-

QUOTE (hpeng031 @ Dec 8 2006, 02:56 PM)
I was trying to clone a 10kb fragment into a 12kb vector, but had no luck. Any suggestions? One of the problems I had is that I can never get a good yield with the Qiagen gel extraction kit. I aslo tried QiaEXII, but it gave me similar yields. Also what ligation kit, competent cells do people usually use?

Many thanks!


For large fragments (10-50 kb) I use QIAEXII with very good yields! I don’t know if you do it, but to increase yield, I heat the water or TE before eluting, and/or after adding it I incubate at 50°C for 3-5 min before centrifugation to collect my DNA. And I don’t vortex, I mix by hand.

Thy increasing the amount of DNA you are digesting.

By the way, when I started my Master studies, QIAEXII wasn’t working very well, but it was because the kit was a little bit old and the ethanol was evaporated in the buffer PE (wash buffer).

-aztecan princess-