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protein precipitation upon dialysis - (Nov/29/2006 )

Hi,

I have used 8M urea extraction buffer(with 20mM Tris and 0.5M NaCl,pH7.9) to make a protein homogenate.However, the proteins got precipitated when i dialysed against it Tris buffer made at the same concentration as used in the initial urea extraction buffer.i would like to know if i can go ahead with doing western blot with the precipitated sample I have?I have a large voulme(30 ml) of the homogenate now.Should I concentrate the homogenate by speedvac and then dialyse against low molar urea concentrations or should i do dialysis and then concentrate the sample?

Thanks,
Nirupa S Mogili

-nirupakl-

QUOTE (nirupakl @ Nov 29 2006, 01:28 PM)
Hi,

I have used 8M urea extraction buffer(with 20mM Tris and 0.5M NaCl,pH7.9) to make a protein homogenate.However, the proteins got precipitated when i dialysed against it Tris buffer made at the same concentration as used in the initial urea extraction buffer.i would like to know if i can go ahead with doing western blot with the precipitated sample I have?I have a large voulme(30 ml) of the homogenate now.Should I concentrate the homogenate by speedvac and then dialyse against low molar urea concentrations or should i do dialysis and then concentrate the sample?

Thanks,
Nirupa S Mogili


you have to check which proteins of your homogenate are precipitating during dialysis beside your are working with a homogenous protein solution

to me it is unclear how the dialysis buffer is composed and conditions of dialysis are arranged (temperature? stirring? what should be lost during dialysis?)

-The Bearer-

Try dialyzing against a different buffer or lower molar concentration buffer before doing anything with the antibody. This has happened to me before. Try 50mM bicarbonate buffer.

-WAstate-

QUOTE (kosmodrom @ Nov 29 2006, 07:13 AM)
QUOTE (nirupakl @ Nov 29 2006, 01:28 PM)

Hi,

I have used 8M urea extraction buffer(with 20mM Tris and 0.5M NaCl,pH7.9) to make a protein homogenate.However, the proteins got precipitated when i dialysed against it Tris buffer made at the same concentration as used in the initial urea extraction buffer.i would like to know if i can go ahead with doing western blot with the precipitated sample I have?I have a large voulme(30 ml) of the homogenate now.Should I concentrate the homogenate by speedvac and then dialyse against low molar urea concentrations or should i do dialysis and then concentrate the sample?

Thanks,
Nirupa S Mogili


you have to check which proteins of your homogenate are precipitating during dialysis beside your are working with a homogenous protein solution

to me it is unclear how the dialysis buffer is composed and conditions of dialysis are arranged (temperature? stirring? what should be lost during dialysis?)


the dialysis was carried out at 4C with magentic stirring.i used 20mM Tris at pH 7.9 as dialysis buffer

-nirupakl-

QUOTE (nirupakl @ Nov 30 2006, 01:34 PM)
QUOTE (kosmodrom @ Nov 29 2006, 07:13 AM)

QUOTE (nirupakl @ Nov 29 2006, 01:28 PM)

Hi,

I have used 8M urea extraction buffer(with 20mM Tris and 0.5M NaCl,pH7.9) to make a protein homogenate.However, the proteins got precipitated when i dialysed against it Tris buffer made at the same concentration as used in the initial urea extraction buffer.i would like to know if i can go ahead with doing western blot with the precipitated sample I have?I have a large voulme(30 ml) of the homogenate now.Should I concentrate the homogenate by speedvac and then dialyse against low molar urea concentrations or should i do dialysis and then concentrate the sample?

Thanks,
Nirupa S Mogili


you have to check which proteins of your homogenate are precipitating during dialysis beside your are working with a homogenous protein solution

to me it is unclear how the dialysis buffer is composed and conditions of dialysis are arranged (temperature? stirring? what should be lost during dialysis?)


the dialysis was carried out at 4C with magentic stirring.i used 20mM Tris at pH 7.9 as dialysis buffer


so, it should be the urea that dissolves your proteins; proteins precipitate when losing urea; you can try to dialyse against 20 mM Tris and 2 M urea and may succeed without precipitation but you may not circumvent to have some urea in your buffer to meet solution of your proteins...

-The Bearer-

well at 8M, urea precipitates itself at 4°
if you want to do at 4°, i know (98% sure) that 4M is the maximum

-fred_33-