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Western blotting signal problem - very weird and does not make any sense. (Aug/16/2006 )

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Ok guys,
This is my problem. I have two blots. Both with same treatment grps but differnt time-points. I use the same antibody (prim and sec, I make it in one tube and split it 50/50) for the blots.

After I develop using ECL i place both my membranes inside the same packet one below the ohter and develop them. When I first expose it, both my bands show up. Then when I want to adjust the size of my bands and reexpose to a new film, the bottom blot hardly shows any signal or a faint one. The top one is just fine. This reexposure is say within 3-5 mins of the first exosure and 5-7 mins after the chemi.

I did this with two differnt antibodies (first with anti-rabbit and the second anti-mouse) The second one was for B-actin. Even this did not show up well. I have no idea whats happening.
I switched cassettes...still zilch...
any ideas
p..

-Casper-

does anyone have any bright ideas???

-Casper-

Someone (may be a lab midget) moved your blots during primary or secondary antibody incubation.

-Minnie Mouse-

do you add fresh substrate before the second exposure?

-mdfenko-

ECL substrates are normally ok for 30'... and don't denature the blots...
I don't know what can happen...

-fred_33-

I think the problem is with the bottom part of the film. Probably does not have an even coating or something. When I switched to a differnt box of film...everything was fine.

p..

-Casper-

Its hard to be a detective. Dont you agree, Casper? I am glad this is not a problem for you any more.

-genehunter-1-

QUOTE (genehunter-1 @ Aug 19 2006, 01:49 PM)
Its hard to be a detective. Dont you agree, Casper? I am glad this is not a problem for you any more.


you are absolutely right my dear Watson biggrin.gif

-Casper-

QUOTE (Casper @ Aug 16 2006, 11:51 AM)
Ok guys,
This is my problem. I have two blots. Both with same treatment grps but differnt time-points. I use the same antibody (prim and sec, I make it in one tube and split it 50/50) for the blots.

After I develop using ECL i place both my membranes inside the same packet one below the ohter and develop them. When I first expose it, both my bands show up. Then when I want to adjust the size of my bands and reexpose to a new film, the bottom blot hardly shows any signal or a faint one. The top one is just fine. This reexposure is say within 3-5 mins of the first exosure and 5-7 mins after the chemi.

I did this with two differnt antibodies (first with anti-rabbit and the second anti-mouse) The second one was for B-actin. Even this did not show up well. I have no idea whats happening.
I switched cassettes...still zilch...
any ideas
p..


Hi Casper,
I agree w/mdfenko. Just need a fresh ECL substrate mix.
The reason I say that is even when I come in the next day to reprobe my blot, the HRP in the secondary Ab still works robustly even if I let it sit overnite between plastic sheets in its old ECL mix without washing.
Ameer

-Ameer-

It could be the ECL reagents, different companies have ECLs with different half-lives. I've tried several ones and the best is Amersham's (Pierce is also good)

-spy-

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