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Hi,
We use a lot of kits, for almost everything. We saw that in spite of they are expensive, at the end, we save money. cool.gif
I used to do the whole protocol for my minipreps (or use kit). Very often I have to do 100 minipreps or more per day (in addition of a lot of more work!) it was horrible and expensive mad.gif !!!!!!
So, now, for 1.5 ml-culture, I just add 100 ul sol I, mix, 200 ul sol II mix by inverting (no incubation), 150 ul sol III mix by inverting (incubate 1 or 2 minutes), centrifuge for 5 min. Precipitate with 0.7 V isopropanol. Centrifuge 5 min, wash with 70% ethanol. And elute in water with or without RNAsa. (I have a big stock of water with RNAsa 20 ug/ml final concentration). So I finish very quickly! And believe me. I digest with almost any restriction enzyme, and I have never had problems. Some times, I use those digestions for cloning without any problem (digest, ligate, tranform). rolleyes.gif
Ah, when I’m digesting just for screening colonies, I use re-used tips for the preps!! tongue.gif
I use kit just when I have to sequence, or transfect (endo-free kit) or something like that!

I think you should try ones to see if it works for you too. wink.gif

-aztecan princess-

QUOTE (aztecan princess @ Jun 21 2006, 03:02 AM)
Hi,
We use a lot of kits, for almost everything. We saw that in spite of they are expensive, at the end, we save money. cool.gif
I used to do the whole protocol for my minipreps (or use kit). Very often I have to do 100 minipreps or more per day (in addition of a lot of more work!) it was horrible and expensive mad.gif !!!!!!
So, now, for 1.5 ml-culture, I just add 100 ul sol I, mix, 200 ul sol II mix by inverting (no incubation), 150 ul sol III mix by inverting (incubate 1 or 2 minutes), centrifuge for 5 min. Precipitate with 0.7 V isopropanol. Centrifuge 5 min, wash with 70% ethanol. And elute in water with or without RNAsa. (I have a big stock of water with RNAsa 20 ug/ml final concentration). So I finish very quickly! And believe me. I digest with almost any restriction enzyme, and I have never had problems. Some times, I use those digestions for cloning without any problem (digest, ligate, tranform). rolleyes.gif
Ah, when I’m digesting just for screening colonies, I use re-used tips for the preps!! tongue.gif
I use kit just when I have to sequence, or transfect (endo-free kit) or something like that!

I think you should try ones to see if it works for you too. wink.gif



I do also like that to spare time and money, but keep in mind that some restriction enzyme doesn't work in this non purified sample.

-Missele-

i use qiaprep spin miniprep kit from qiagen. and it works like like a shot every time. highly reprodicible, fast, and not in the expensive bracket at all......even for gel purifying dna i prefer the qiagen min-elute kit rather than taking the lmp agarose and hot phenol way.....

- viv

-viv-

If you've see my other posts i try not to plug, but...

There are kits and manufacturers out there that provide tools for most common molecular and cell bio techniques, that work just as effectively as the big box manufacturers like Promega and Qiagen. Their kits can be just as reliable and just as everyone here has said, you will really save a lot of time.

The smaller manufacturers can be harder to find, because they don't spend their ad budgets on a mass audience like Eppendorf.

But, you can start with our website www.vasus.com. We continue to add new manufacturers everyday. Though some larger manufacturers are listed with us, we really try to bring a wider diversity of products from less known manufacturers with better terms and pricing for the researcher.

Discount pricing, up to 70% off, is available without registration. If you need some supplier suggestions let me know.

-vasussci-

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yes Promega's Wizard Kit is really effective and resonable.


please can you place website for it.....seems can't find it... ph34r.gif

-Kathy-

mean this one?

Promega Wizard Miniprep Kit

wink.gif

-kylvalda-

QUOTE (vasussci @ Jun 18 2006, 09:59 AM)
If there is no column purification or some sort of purification step such as the phenol/chloro extraction, your prep is probably pretty dirty. I don't know if the DNA would be that useful for anything more than a qualitative test for determining if you have plasmid or maybe pcr. But you can do pcr straight from a colony or lysate...


Can't be serious. People have used that protocol for years - two washes with 70% EtOH and it's fine for digestion. For sequencing, ligation, and electro-transformation - maybe not.

I prefered some of the other "quick and dirty" protocols, however. Because they were quicker.
"Boiling prep" (BioTechniques 7(5): 514-519) was a long time favourite. You find it in Maniatis.
"Quicker" (Shergini et al. 1989, NAR 17: 3604) was also really quick, but required Phe:CIAA.

The last years in the lab, commercial kits have become more affordable, but they are more time consuming than these old methods, and I really hate columns.

-Gerd-

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