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endothelial cells' staining - (Nov/28/2005 )

Dear all,
I have been trying to characterize endothelial cells that were extracted from the aorta by a lab member.I have been having problems doing the same as even my negative control (one w/o primary Ab) also shows a good signal..pls help!Also,if u could suggest any other fibroblast specific marker besides vimentin it'll be great

-ruchi-

QUOTE (ruchi @ Nov 28 2005, 07:25 PM)
Dear all,
I have been trying to characterize endothelial cells that were extracted from the aorta by a lab member.I have been having problems doing the same as even my negative control (one w/o primary Ab) also shows a good signal..pls help!Also,if u could suggest any other fibroblast specific marker besides vimentin it'll be great


What animal is the endothelial cell from?

-Minnie Mouse-

did you considere using LDL uptake?

-nexuson-

LDL uptake didnt quite work for me...used NIH 3T3 as controls which also ended up taking LDL!!!
Also: Do you know if endothelial cells change morphology (appear spindle like) when they are motile??

-ruchi-

Yes knowing what animal the cells are from will help. What antibodies have you tried and what was your protocol. I can help.

QUOTE (Minnie Mouse @ Nov 28 2005, 11:09 PM)
What animal is the endothelial cell from?

-MaximinaNYC-

QUOTE (MaximinaNYC @ Dec 1 2005, 01:13 AM)
Yes knowing what animal the cells are from will help. What antibodies have you tried and what was your protocol. I can help.

QUOTE (Minnie Mouse @ Nov 28 2005, 11:09 PM)

What animal is the endothelial cell from?




My cells have been extracted using the non-enzymatic method from the aorta of a mouse.I;ve been tryint o stain for CD31(PECAM). i fix the cells in acetone for 10mins,followed by quick washes,blocking in goat serum,incubation with rat anti mouse CD31 (1:100) at 4C o/N-----washes in PBS,incubation with biotinylated goat anti-rat for 30 mins,washes---incubation with alexa 488---washes----dapi--mount.
all washes are in PBS.
my negative cntrl--cells w/o primary and only secondary shows staining too.........is secondary a problem----(but it works for embryo staining)---is fixation a problem----------or are cells a problem (do they need to be at hisher confuence)????????
pls help!!!!!!!!!!

-ruchi-

What company is the CD31 from? What clone? Is it MEC13.3? If so, it should and will work! Don't worry!! It's an AWESOME antibody if the conditions are right.

A few questions:
- Are you sure your cells that you extracted are endothelial cells and not fibroblasts? Do you have a positive control for your stain, something you KNOW expresses CD31 to make sure all reagents are good and functional?
- Use the antibody at 1-5 ug/ml. You say a dilution of 1:100 you are using but what is the concentration?
- I also use acetone (5 min is sufficient) so I don't think that is the problem but why not also try 1% PFA/PBS for 15 minutes as a fix just in case (normally this antibody doesn't stain well with PFA but it's worth a shot).
- The background you see may be endogenous biotin, do you block it?
- Do you examine the slides immediately after staining to make sure nothing is happening over time between the stain and when you examine the slides?
- Confluence isn't an issue I wouldn't worry about it.

-MaximinaNYC-

You need to use CD31. It's a perfect marker for EC.
Good luck,

Alex

-Alex05-