# x and y mystery - (Sep/05/2013 )

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But look at the man. He is something more.  He is X and Y.  That means, he is essentially an ‘X ’plus something extra. What do I mean by that! Man is already a woman that is ‘X’, plus something extra.  Does that mean first step towards manhood is womanhood? Now let’s talk in mathematical language. Here is the equation,   Man = 22 autosomes + X + Y Woman= 22 autosomes + X + X= 22 autsomes + X (by logic not by mathematics). . .  Man= (22 autosomes + X) + Y= Woman + Y (by mathematics, simply) So man is everything that woman is, plus something extra.  Now the extra thing is not qualitatively different, but quantitatively. Hence Y here must be somewhat like X + 1, X+2 or X+ 3 or something like that. It would be one day proven that woman can potentially grow into man. Similarly man can reduce to woman, if he loses some part of ‘Y’.

Moved, as these are not real biology bob.

-surgeongirl-

I suggest you work on both your mathematics and biology...

-bob1-

I suggest you work on both your mathematics and biology...

If its possible in animals can it be in humans

"Some species, such as some snails, practice sex change: adults start out male, then become female (See also sex reversal). In tropical clown fish, the dominant individual in a group becomes female while the other ones are male, and bluehead wrasses (Thalassoma bifasciatum) are the reverse. In the marine worm (Bonellia viridis), larvae become males if they make physical contact with a female, and females if they end up on the bare sea floor. This is triggered by the presence of a chemical produced by the females, bonellin. Some species, however, have no sex-determination system. Hermaphrodites include the common earthworm and certain species of snails. A few species of fish, reptiles, and insects reproduce by parthenogenesis and are female altogether. There are some reptiles, such as the boa constrictor and komodo dragon that can reproduce sexually and asexually, depending if a mate is available"(OR amphibians
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphibian and some fish http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishwhich are known to be able to change their gender. and again http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex-determi...lodiploidy)

-surgeongirl-

It does - see sexual reassignment... doesn't work fully though.

-bob1-

I think the point is that all the examples from animal species you quote, these don't have an XX/XY-sex-determination system but others: there e.g. hormones, temperature, age etc determine the sex, i.e. the activity of genes on other chromosomes is influenced by this factors and XX/XY chromosomes are not there.

And btw as you quote wikipedia a lot: Can you show how your mathematics work for XX/X0, W/X/Y or haplo-diploid sex-determination systems (just to mention a few different ones)?

-hobglobin-

It would be one day proven that woman can potentially grow into man. Similarly man can reduce to woman, if he loses some part of ‘Y’.

Genetic abnormalities do cause male look like female or female to male or mixed. What is significance of your argument? are you intending clinical significance? or just for fun?

-Inbox-

not just for fun.

I happen to read the book which I am not authorized to comment upon.

Just wanted to put in front of experts... before i make my opinion

-surgeongirl-

not just for fun.

I happen to read the book which I am not authorized to comment upon.

Just wanted to put in front of experts... before i make my opinion