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QUOTE (gebirgsziege @ Jun 14 2008, 01:47 AM)
QUOTE (Bungalow Boy @ Jun 13 2008, 04:16 PM)
QUOTE (gebirgsziege @ Jun 13 2008, 10:05 PM)
think there was some kind of worm or beetle named after G.W.Bush some years ago????

That does not shock me .. . because i am a scientist wink.gif


finally found it! watch out!


With that U changed your 'signature' also. That is shocking. The present one is unreadable to me. wacko.gif

-Bungalow Boy-

QUOTE (Bungalow Boy @ Jun 13 2008, 07:22 PM)
QUOTE (gebirgsziege @ Jun 14 2008, 01:47 AM)
QUOTE (Bungalow Boy @ Jun 13 2008, 04:16 PM)
QUOTE (gebirgsziege @ Jun 13 2008, 10:05 PM)
think there was some kind of worm or beetle named after G.W.Bush some years ago????

That does not shock me .. . because i am a scientist wink.gif


finally found it! watch out!


With that U changed your 'signature' also. That is shocking. The present one is unreadable to me. wacko.gif



poor me was teased with four horrible years of latin in school (even if you still need it if you want to discribe a new fungus; latin diagnoses are still required)....was not very good in it, so I am happy with the rough translation of this motto from the home of Nessi "None provokes me unpunished" closedeyes.gif if you take a look in the UEFA thread you will understand why I changed it wink.gif
But shocking people is my job....I am a scientist tongue.gif (maybe I should take this as my signature glare.gif)

-gebirgsziege-

Mine will be 'Nothing shocks me more than my own results . . I am a scientist'

Latin . . eh, hold on . . had something for this. Brb

-Bungalow Boy-

Here you are,

Why Is This Night Different?

During one of his many trips to London, George Burns became friends with a very wealthy, yet very modest, Jewish chap named Hyman Goldfarb. On one visit, Hy told George that because of his large donations to charities through the years, the queen wanted to knight him, but he was going to turn it down.

"That's a great honor," George said. "Why would you turn it down?""Because during the ceremony you have to say something in Latin," he said. "And I don't wish to bother studying Latin just for that."

"So say something in Hebrew. The queen wouldn't know the difference."

"Brilliant," Hy complimented me, "but what should I say?"

"Remember that question the son asks the father on the first night of Passover? ... 'Why is this night different from all other nights?' Can you say that in Hebrew?"

"Of course," he said. "Ma nishtana ha leila hazeh. Thank you, old sport, I shall become a knight."

At the ceremony Hy waited his turn while several of the other honorees went before the queen. Finally they called his name. He knelt before Her Majesty, she placed her sword on one shoulder and then on the other, and motioned for Hy to speak.

Out came "Ma nishtana ha leila hazeh."

The queen turned to her husband and said, "Why is this knight different from all other knights?"

-Bungalow Boy-

wrong gerb - in addition to your obvious political hatred you betray an ignorance of the changing "definition " of species - esp. the benign neglect of science to the term. One can fund species casually redefined in systematic taxonomy journals as well as the sloppy treatment in clinical vet and industrial journals.

-jorge1907-

QUOTE (jorge1907 @ Jun 14 2008, 01:53 AM)
wrong gerb - in addition to your obvious political hatred you betray an ignorance of the changing "definition " of species - esp. the benign neglect of science to the term. One can fund species casually redefined in systematic taxonomy journals as well as the sloppy treatment in clinical vet and industrial journals.



I agree with you: the terms species, genus etc. are used quite careless these days. But nevertheless: there have been lost of concepts discussed of what is a species and how many differences are enough to define a species. Sepecies concepts are and have been fluid; You are right, I am not very deep into bacterial taxonomy, but I know groups of fungi which are split up in seperate species on the basis of one base different in the ITS and diminuite morphological differences which are nearly impossible to recognize if you are not deep into it. And other groups are some kind of "waste paper basket" where lots of obviously different species or f. sp. (as mentioned depends on the definition!) are grouped together although there are changes in more than 50 bases of the ITS.....so the concept of a species IS fluent and IS changable, nevertheless if you like it or not. Maybe you can tell me on wich general "definition" you are basing your species concept; I am working with species- concepst for quite a time now and have not found the "universal" concept!

And btw: I do not know on which political hatered you are referring. It is a fact that some organisms have been named after american politicians....It was not me, so please think about what you are writing before telling people they are ignorant! Because this is very arrogant behaviour of you! So pleas let us keep the discussion on a scientific level!

-gebirgsziege-

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