Ruling by deceit is still Darwinism - How big is your gilded cage? (Nov/29/2007 )
Who in your life cracks the whip? Your slave-driving bossman who your helping get that promotion before he calmly fires you. Or perhaps your over achieving spouse who want 4 kids, 4 cars and 4 houses on your back before your 30. And these are the known people in your life who you barter with and lose to everyday. What about the ones you don't really know who are riding on your back like tenacious little monkeys. Every democratic society has them. Thoughtout the centuries every free society has given rise to dictatorships, some obvious and most camouflaged to assist infuential families in gaining control over the good thing in your country available to you by implementing legal restrictions and increasing costs. These indiscernible monarckies control the flow of commerce by controling your needs and disires without you realizing it. 
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So how are they squeezing your back up against those bars? What are the bare necessities that you need to survive everyday? Are gas and food prices too high for you to buy medications? Is your mortgage rate set by your government so high that your a few paychecks away from living out on the street? Police tickets are now $75 for doing 6 miles over the speed limit. Are you looking forward to buying yourself that Christmas present subconsciously thinking that it will take your mind off your troubles? 
TELL ME WHAT'S IN YOUR COUNTRY THAT REALLY TICS YOU OFF!!!! 
pssst, the government doesn't set the interest rates. it's the the reserve bank. in the US it's the federal reseve bank. in australia in the reserve bank. they are government buildings, but are independent of the government. it doesnt' matter what level of interest the government asks for... it's up to the bank to keep economic growth and inflation in check, independently of the government. it does this by moving the interest rates.
in any case, the interest rates are set by inflation etc etc (do you want an economics lecture? no, didn't think so). if you are interested, look up monetary policy.
no matter what the politicians say, they do not set the interest rates. they cannot promise to keep them low, because they are not in charge of it. they can do their best by using fiscal policy (tax and spending it stuff to help promote growth). this will interact with how monetary policy will take place, but it is not the sole determinator.
in any case, if you have a mortgage that is leaving you on the verge of being homeless... perhaps you should look into your policy, see if you can get a better deal. you could also sell your home and get something smaller (which you can afford).
you shouldn't speed in the first place. no speeding = no fine.
i'm not going to blame "the man" because you are breaking the law.food prices are high. i feel sorry for the farmers, who are batteling drought, bankrupcy, flood, and are still expected to feed the nation. so i understand why food prices are so high.
gas prices... don't care. i don't drive. it's bad for the environment. walking and riding a bike may be slower, but it's better for your health. include your mental well being.
i do believe you are using hyperbole when you say that "every free free society has given rise to dictatorships, some obvious and most camouflaged to assist infuential families in gaining control over the good thing in your country available to you by implementing legal restrictions and increasing costs"
might i suggest taking off the tin-foil hat. you sound a little bit creepy.
i like x-mas. i like presents.
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Yeah, dave. Take a chill pill.
Mr. Vitious:
all I wanted was to hear what you disliked in your country. When I have more time I will educate you on who is incharge of what, but in the meantime you can you remove your last post from my chemtrail site. Chit chat is just for chit chatting and as the moderator you should not deliberately change the topic of discussion within the posted sites. I have complained to Bio-forum.
all I wanted was to hear what you disliked in your country. When I have more time I will educate you on who is incharge of what, but in the meantime you can you remove your last post from my chemtrail site. Chit chat is just for chit chatting and as the moderator you should not deliberately change the topic of discussion within the posted sites. I have complained to Bio-forum.
Really? You complained to bioforum because you didn't like her response? I thought she was addressing exactly the things you mentioned, just responding that she doesnt have issues with those things and why... ummm it sorta suprises me that you are worried about dictatorship and yet you are upset with free speech... hmmmm
BTW, I actually disagree with her, just think you should be willing to accept peoples answers even if you disagree, especially if you dislike dictatorships...
I personally dislike alot of stuff, I think gas prices are ridiculous and it REALLY pisses me off that the gas companies are making record profits in the US while people struggle to pay the 3.00 a gallon they are jacking the prices up to, this is why I am a democrat, someone, preferably our government, needs to tell the oil companies that they don't get to roll in profits by breaking the backs of working americans, and I think it speaks to your hypothesis that the media doesn't really cover that story at all when I think there should be outrage. An author was on Colbert Report last night talking about the 10 steps all dictatorships go through, she only listed the first 5 but the similarities with the Bush agenda are terrifying!!!
Anyway, my 2 cents, a little scared that I am suddenly expressing my opinions on things like politics and religion, usually shy away because people tend to judge others harshly on these subjects,
just remember you can still trust my answers to technical questions even if we strongly disagree about these chit chat things! 
Thank you Mr. CAFFEINE. Just kidding. 
I agree completely with you except for the first paragraph because I am right to dislike those that provide free lip service to the fat cats in Washington that are screwing us behind our back. 
That's right, behind our backs. And this guy, or girl, with a 12th grade education in economics is trying to tell us that our government agencies are calling the shots without big industry lobbyists (big oil lobbyists) paying off the Bushs who appoint and influence directors and chairmen and others who set gas prices along with interest rates food prices and everything else that they can make a dollar controlling.
These are just the things that you and I can see, but they control so much more that people don't see. I need to take a break.
Again my many thanks to you Beccaf22 for your input, and I hope you will come back and join me again in this discussion about tyranny being alive and will in the 21st century. Do people ever change? The anser is no, and history will always repeat itself.
Some of the Bush family's treasonous acts against Americans.
1. They have artificially increased the wholesale price of gas to triple the inflationary price of gas and other commodities which increases industrial profits. They want to take away your freedom to go where you want to, your freedom to come and go as you please in your cars.
2. The Bushs knew about the 911 planes before 09-11-01 so that he could invade the middle east for oil profit kickbacks.
3. Bush Sr. gave authorization to spread weaponized Mycoplasma to troups and then bring them back into the general population to cantaminate everyone.
4. Jeb Bush used state health laboratory equipment for growth and testing of weaponized pathogens.
All I know is what's bad about America, so that's all I can talk about. But what about you and the tyrants in your country who've been socking it to you for years? It must be eating away at you , so why don't you tell us all about it. 
Bachelors degree in business, majoring in economics and banking finance.
Worked in the baking industry for a while before moving on to science.
and it's Ms Vetticus.
Seriously, remove the tin foil hat.
I'm moving this thread to chitchat, because it has nothing to do with evolution or darwinism, rather it's a political/conspiracy theorist thread.
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So how are they squeezing your back up against those bars? What are the bare necessities that you need to survive everyday? Are gas and food prices too high for you to buy medications? Is your mortgage rate set by your government so high that your a few paychecks away from living out on the street? Police tickets are now $75 for doing 6 miles over the speed limit. Are you looking forward to buying yourself that Christmas present subconsciously thinking that it will take your mind off your troubles?
TELL ME WHAT'S IN YOUR COUNTRY THAT REALLY TICS YOU OFF!!!!
Up to your old tricks again eh dave? How can you complain to Bioforum about Vetticus, surely to be fair you should’ve reported me first since I instigated the hijack (together with my feuding partner hobglobin) you snitch!! If you tone down your paranoia (or is it persecution complex?) and histrionics (you’d eclipse me as the drama queen) you may be on to something here…modern day enslavement, high-level corruption and greed, excessive consumerism and moral bankruptcy, S &M and bestiality (whips and what’s that monkey doing on your back?)
…what more can John Le Carre ask for? Besides we’re probably not the best target audience for this kind of rhetoric since most of us are not yet in that stage of having a series of cars, mortgages and spouses.Flippancy aside, you’re one to talk about tyrannies but isn’t the US (with its henchmen the CIA) the master puppeteer …think Pinochet, Noriega, Papa Doc, Suharto, Marcos, Shah of Iran, Sadam etc. And for which purpose…to spread your own brand of democracy or is it for the power balance, the endless supply of cheap resources and labor, opening up potential markets, arms trade iow for protecting and maintaining its economic and military/security interests...so pls don’t tell me that the average working American did/does not benefit from all this.
You wanna talk oil prices? We pay more than a dollar (loonie is in parity with the greenback now) for a liter and in some places even more than a dollar fifty esp at summer time and I think that the Europeans pay about the same thing or even more. How much higher do you Americans pay? And taxes? We sorta celebrate here the 1st of July for it is the day that we start earning and saving for ourselves bec all that we’ve worked for during the first half of the year just goes to taxes (properties, goods and services, provincial and federal) and social benefits premium. Is there anything other than polemics here or with all your wisdom and your desire to educate us, will you propose something to help break ourselves out of this cage, gilded yes but nevertheless still a prison? Or did Noam Chomsky hit the bullseye when he said “All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume."
Should we care about how the government is spending our hard-earned money and screwing us behind our backs? Of course we should but personally I am more outraged if I see homeless people in the downtown metro shivering in their tattered coats when temperatures drop below zero outside or read about hungry and neglected children going to schools or the endless wait in the emergency rooms or for a CT-scan. I suggest you chill and I propose that you also give me a nickname..'coz I'm feeling so left out
.with 18+ years of inexperience,
casandra
It's nice to see that trolling and flame-warring infects all classes of internet forums...