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QUOTE (hobglobin @ Apr 13 2007, 04:30 AM)
Yes, but for both genders, keyword: assortative mating. And it is just a trend. Not all follow unconditionally their evolutional trait (or is it a cultural one, there were some matricharial societies...).
And for myself I not feel guilty and it is not my problem, as it is not my strategy. I 'm not interested in an inferior (dump/non-educated/what you want) woman, but this makes it more difficult to find someone, that's my experience. blink.gif

And we have a very centred look to the west, in other cultures, in our point of view, situation is much bader, but there is more social order and no missing reproduction wink.gif . But this is another topic.

K-strategy...assortative mating.. ever the biologist eh hobglobin wink.gif .We're not exactly talking about dumb and uneducated here, just degrees below your level and you're definitely not looking above, so why is that? But you think that as a woman I would prefer someone older, more stable, with money and status bla bla bla....That is so warped!!

And in which other culture is the status of women a little better than ours- and don't count the scandinavians-I want some stats on this? Missing reproduction...do you also blame the women for this? biggrin.gif

-casandra-

Help... Casandra!

-ahmad193-

QUOTE (casandra @ Apr 14 2007, 05:11 AM)
QUOTE (ahmad193 @ Apr 13 2007, 10:00 AM)
. the moment we pull over, our manhood shrivels away and dies biggrin.gif


what does the WHO report say about women parallel parking? tongue.gif

Bioforum, Ahmad just used inappropriate language. We should bleep him out laugh.gif


Parallel parking? What is that? Never done that before.....but I bet that you can't drive, talk on the cell phone and apply make-up all at the same time. We're so much better at multitasking!!! wink.gif

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif
Casandra, you don't drive and talk, do you??? Didn't you know that is a major cause of traffic accidents? wink.gif
Make-up, too?


Anyway, I always thought the horse was the most highly evolved species... 1 toe per leg, has trained Homo sapiens to feed it sugar cubes and apples, let it out for a bit of a run, stuff like that. Actually, that sounds a bit like us men! (Apart from the toe thing, and getting lots of sugar-cubes and apples, maybe replace that with beer and steaks...) He said, tongue firmly planted in cheek.

-swanny-

QUOTE (casandra @ Apr 14 2007, 11:42 PM)
We're not exactly talking about dumb and uneducated here, just degrees below your level and you're definitely not looking above, so why is that?
And in which other culture is the status of women a little better than ours- and don't count the scandinavians-I want some stats on this? Missing reproduction...do you also blame the women for this? biggrin.gif


That's a characteristic of women: Exactly estimating what level the opposite has and what he is, is he (or she) a little bit below or above me? And afterwards to pump out informations if the look was not sufficient, a so-called chat, but in reality an interview... wink.gif

QUOTE (casandra @ Apr 14 2007, 11:42 PM)
But you think that as a woman I would prefer someone older, more stable, with money and status bla bla bla....That is so warped!!


And so self-centered, every comment they refer to themselves tongue.gif

QUOTE (casandra @ Apr 14 2007, 11:42 PM)
And in which other culture is the status of women a little better than ours- and don't count the scandinavians-I want some stats on this? biggrin.gif


Thats what I meant, there aren't almost any societies better than ours in this topic. The conclusions draw yourself.

-hobglobin-

QUOTE (ahmad193 @ Apr 15 2007, 03:30 PM)

Can't open this....so typically male..always needing a female to bail him out. glare.gif What's it this time Ahmad? Let me guess- a booboo?..You men are such babies wacko.gif

-casandra-

QUOTE (swanny @ Apr 15 2007, 08:59 PM)
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif
Casandra, you don't drive and talk, do you??? Didn't you know that is a major cause of traffic accidents? wink.gif
Make-up, too?

Me, drive and talk? I had several close calls with idiots who drive and talk. They should completely ban those things (cell phones and if possible the idiots too). And make-up, what for? If you're not happy with the face you're born with, the more reason for you not to look at the mirror laugh.gif.

I like the horse analogy esp if you can just be all tied up and kept in the stables then taken out if there's work to do. wink.gif

casandra

-casandra-

QUOTE (hobglobin @ Apr 16 2007, 06:53 AM)
That's a characteristic of women: Exactly estimating what level the opposite has and what he is, is he (or she) a little bit below or above me? And afterwards to pump out informations if the look was not sufficient, a so-called chat, but in reality an interview... wink.gif

And so self-centered, every comment they refer to themselves tongue.gif

Thats what I meant, there aren't almost any societies better than ours in this topic. The conclusions draw yourself.

Aagh...that hurts hobglobin...I'm wounded deeply .....to be characterized as calculating, manipulative, underhanded, self-centered (the deepest cut) and too dull even to draw my own conclusions. There's no cross-talk and problem with the language this time. I could proceed using two strategies women are famed for in cases such as this: I give you either the silent treatment or the hysterical outburst. But I will opt for a dignified exit with some dignified parting words," Apologize to me first or I will never ever talk to you again and I will never change my mind about this. You'll see." angry.gif

Self-centered <sigh> when in fact my middle name is altruistic sad.gif . You're more highly evolved in having the mean bones.

casandra, beyond consoling

-casandra-

"Discussion is an exchange of knowledge; an argument an exchange of ignorance."[
This is a discussion forum. So lets DISCUSS without personal references. Thanks.

-Calvin*-

QUOTE (Calvin* @ Apr 16 2007, 08:30 PM)
"Discussion is an exchange of knowledge; an argument an exchange of ignorance."[
This is a discussion forum. So lets DISCUSS without personal references. Thanks.

But Calvin, an argument is a statement or a claim that is based on a premise or group of premises to support a conclusion. Therefore, it’s not fluff, entirely baseless or meaningless so I’d go easy on the ‘exchange of ignorance’ unless you’re quoting yet again another sanskrit proverb. Many an interesting discussion would have one or two arguments (no matter how skewed) embedded in it and I think that we are all at a certain level that we can handle this kind of “exchange”.

Likewise, making personal references is sometimes inevitable first, bec. it could be part of a writing style which no one has any right to infringe upon and second, it’s a way to avoid making blanket statements or generalizations so one only ‘refers’ to his/her own experience, character, considerations. You may have a point if what you’re specifically referring to is the use of argumentum ad hominem, a common fallacy best avoided or taken at one’s own risk. But allow the person to make this choice.

I may be guilty of using a little bit of ad hominem by calling hobglobin mean but I have a perfect defense, the one I use whenever I get in trouble with one of my brothers “He started it!!!” wink.gif First, the more evolved housekeeper, then the nympho she-Einstein with a high k-strategy and the most egregious of all- calling me self-centered when I was just speaking for myself and not for the whole of womankind (btw everything else I wrote was just silly drama). But wasn’t I provoked enough?

On second thoughts, he’s probably just as provoked but he gives as good as he gets so we’re evenly matched and both holding our ground. Besides like what hobglobin said, this is just another chit chat discussion (and I have been elevated to “enthusiast” status because of this thread) so let the bashing, I mean, discussion continue...and if you want join in the fray or stay safe in your bunkers....and then maybe I can attain my dream of being a “veteran”. tongue.gif

-casandra-

QUOTE (casandra @ Apr 17 2007, 05:53 PM)
QUOTE (Calvin* @ Apr 16 2007, 08:30 PM)
"Discussion is an exchange of knowledge; an argument an exchange of ignorance."[
This is a discussion forum. So lets DISCUSS without personal references. Thanks.

But Calvin, an argument is a statement or a claim that is based on a premise or group of premises to support a conclusion. Therefore, it’s not fluff, entirely baseless or meaningless so I’d go easy on the ‘exchange of ignorance’ unless you’re quoting yet again another sanskrit proverb. Many an interesting discussion would have one or two arguments (no matter how skewed) embedded in it and I think that we are all at a certain level that we can handle this kind of “exchange”.

Likewise, making personal references is sometimes inevitable first, bec. it could be part of a writing style which no one has any right to infringe upon and second, it’s a way to avoid making blanket statements or generalizations so one only ‘refers’ to his/her own experience, character, considerations. You may have a point if what you’re specifically referring to is the use of argumentum ad hominem, a common fallacy best avoided or taken at one’s own risk. But allow the person to make this choice.

I may be guilty of using a little bit of ad hominem by calling hobglobin mean but I have a perfect defense, the one I use whenever I get in trouble with one of my brothers “He started it!!!” wink.gif First, the more evolved housekeeper, then the nympho she-Einstein with a high k-strategy and the most egregious of all- calling me self-centered when I was just speaking for myself and not for the whole of womankind (btw everything else I wrote was just silly drama). But wasn’t I provoked enough?

On second thoughts, he’s probably just as provoked but he gives as good as he gets so we’re evenly matched and both holding our ground. Besides like what hobglobin said, this is just another chit chat discussion (and I have been elevated to “enthusiast” status because of this thread) so let the bashing, I mean, discussion continue...and if you want join in the fray or stay safe in your bunkers....and then maybe I can attain my dream of being a “veteran”. tongue.gif


You're right -as ever wink.gif
But before getting an "enthusiast", we will both get a warning from severe Calvin*, probably with good reason.

-hobglobin-

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