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Primary culture - keratinocytes - how do I know? (Nov/14/2005 )

Hi,

I am trying to culture canine keratinocytes. I have some cell growth but how do I know for certain that the cells are keratinocytes? Is there a definitive test I can do?

Thanks

-LittleMiss-

do they look like these?

http://www.medscape.com/content/2000/00/40...205.03.fig2.jpg

http://www.amaxa.com/uploads/pics/keratino...light-24h_W.jpg

http://www.cell-systems.com/images/2BB3-P75.gif


they have a 'cobblestone' appearance under the inverted scope that is quite a distinctive morphology

I think perhaps there are is a panel of tests you could use to confirm, but I do not know what that would be. perhaps you could go to the literature?

-aimikins-

thanks,

they don't really look like the 1at or 3rd pic but maybe more like the second one. I have been looking at the lit to find a method but not doing very well so far!

-LittleMiss-

how/where did you get the cells? did you isolate them from an epidermal graft or something, or get them from someone else?

we buy primary human skin keratinocytes from a company that sends a little picture of how they are supposed to look. we maintain them as directed and monitor morphology and growth habits to be sure that the cultures continue to be keratinocytes.

-aimikins-

QUOTE (aimikins @ Nov 14 2005, 06:06 PM)
how/where did you get the cells? did you isolate them from an epidermal graft or something, or get them from someone else?

we buy primary human skin keratinocytes from a company that sends a little picture of how they are supposed to look. we maintain them as directed and monitor morphology and growth habits to be sure that the cultures continue to be keratinocytes.


I got them fro dog skin samples.

-LittleMiss-

I assume you used a standard isolation protocol to separate the layers (that whole dispase step)? then there should be two options in your dish at this point, assuming a nice clean culture: fibroblasts, and keratinocytes, right? they look quite different and if the cells you got look like the pix I linked to that one post, you should be good to go. we use epidermal keratinocytes, but I think pretty much any old keratinocyte looks pretty similar in the dish, according to what I have seen in the literature

http://www.cascadebio.com/pdfdocs/APF%20Ke...re%20042903.pdf

if you look at the latter half of this, you may find some helpful tests. I don't know how similar dog keratinocytes are to humans, but this might help you get started??

-aimikins-

QUOTE (aimikins @ Nov 14 2005, 07:18 PM)
I assume you used a standard isolation protocol to separate the layers (that whole dispase step)? then there should be two options in your dish at this point, assuming a nice clean culture: fibroblasts, and keratinocytes, right? they look quite different and if the cells you got look like the pix I linked to that one post, you should be good to go. we use epidermal keratinocytes, but I think pretty much any old keratinocyte looks pretty similar in the dish, according to what I have seen in the literature

http://www.cascadebio.com/pdfdocs/APF%20Ke...re%20042903.pdf

if you look at the latter half of this, you may find some helpful tests. I don't know how similar dog keratinocytes are to humans, but this might help you get started??


yeah I used dispase. Thanks for the link it looks good I shall go and read it now. Thanks for being so helpful. smile.gif

-LittleMiss-