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where to find a certain strain? - (Apr/18/2010 )

Dear all,
I am hoping if anyone here can tell me where to find info on a certain strain.

I am looking for strain v62 of v. anguillarum.

I can not seem to find info on this strain. I got it from a rather old paper (this one) and I am starting to think they might have changed the name or something?

any help appreciated.

thanks in advance

-josse-

The strain Vibrio anguillarum is also known under the synonym Listonella anguillarum.

You can find it for example in the German Collection of Microorganisms and Cell Cultures (but i think it should be also available from the ATCC.

Regards,
p

josse on Apr 18 2010, 06:31 PM said:

Dear all,
I am hoping if anyone here can tell me where to find info on a certain strain.

I am looking for strain v62 of v. anguillarum.

I can not seem to find info on this strain. I got it from a rather old paper (this one) and I am starting to think they might have changed the name or something?

any help appreciated.

thanks in advance

-pDNA-

pDNA,

I know they have renamed it to Listonella anguillarum and I know that I can find it at atcc or any other company that sells them, but I am looking to that specific strain (v62) and was wondering how I could find such a specific strain?

How do other people here do it? Mail the author? (it is however a rather old paper).


Arent they supposed to mention where they got the strain from normally or tell where to find it?

-josse-

You can track down the author (or if necessary, the author's students), and they will likely have the strain. Old strains sometimes are lost. Is there a reason that this particular strain is necessary?

-phage434-

If you can't find either of the authors of the original paper, email the senior author (D. J. McKenzie) of this recent paper, and ask for the email addresses of the second and third authors (B. Chatain and L. Grima). They work at the Station expérimentale d'aquaculture in France, from which the original work you cited originated, and could possibly help you track down the strain you're looking for.

-HomeBrew-

I see. A little bit of "playing detective" is in order here.

I was thinking that strains, when refered to, where always deposited somewhere or that you could easly track them down at the ATCC or something else.


Was I wrong here lol


@phage434

You can track down the author (or if necessary, the author's students), and they will likely have the strain. Old strains sometimes are lost. Is there a reason that this particular strain is necessary?


Yeah, there is a specific reason.
It is very rare that a V. anguillarum strain is able to grow on 0% NaCl.

-josse-

Yeah, I saw that (0% NaCl) -- seems a bit suspicious to me... Most times strains are deposited in repositories, but not always. If you can't find it in one of the big repositories, look for a more specialized one -- one that keeps strains of interest to marine ecology, or maybe a repository in France.

According to this article (Journal of Microbiological Methods Volume 77, Issue 2, May 2009, Pages 191-197), Philippe Haffner (the senior author of the original work you cited) is at Laboratoire de Génétique et Pathologie, IFREMER, BP 33, av. du Mus de Loup, 17390 La Tremblade, France. Tel.: +33 5 46 76 26 46; fax: +33 5 46 76 26 11.

-HomeBrew-

Thanks a lot guys.

I allready managed to find one of the authors of that paper so I allready have contact.


Yeah, I saw that (0% NaCl) -- seems a bit suspicious to me... Most times strains are deposited in repositories, but not always. If you can't find it in one of the big repositories, look for a more specialized one -- one that keeps strains of interest to marine ecology, or maybe a repository in France.


And if they deposit those strains, normally those strains are deposited with the name they use in the article , right? Or?


And I was wondering: isnt there some website where you are forced to give details about a certain (new) bacterium or DNA info ?
(Just an extra question that popped since I remember that someone once told me you are obliged to store or tell you found something new, or is this wrong?)

-josse-

Strains would normally retain the name given by the person isolating them. New species (but not strains) need to be "validly named" which normally now means description in an article the International Journal of Systematic and Evolutionary Bacteriology (IJSEM). Depending on the genus, there are typically requirements for what must be measured and reported about the new species. New species (but not strains) must be deposited in an international repository, such as DSMZ or ATCC in two different countries.

-phage434-