I have recently cloned a 2.0 kB insert which I thought may be a promoter into pGL3 and have discovered it has no activity compared to pGL3-Basic (actually, it has about 0.3 x compared to pGL3 basic, but this is understandible because pGL3-Basic has low background activity in some cell lines).
The way I identified the insert as a putative promoter region was by identifying the location of the transcriptional start site (TSS) through 5' RACE. Based on this result, I cloned in the 2 Kb piece, 1.5 kB upstream of the TSS and 0.5 kB downstream.
I know fo four reasons why this could be a negative result:
Possibility 1: something wrong with plasmid identity, integrity or concentration used in the transfections to test for activity.
Possibility 2: something wrong with the sequence.
Possibility 3: ATG start sites that are downstream of the transcription start site but upstream of the ATG start site for luciferase may interefere with the reading of the ATG for luciferase.
Possibility 4: the 2.0 kB insert is missing crucial regions, either A.) part of the promoter, B.) missing an enhancer.
I have ruled out possibility 1 and 2 by doing restriction digests, agarose gels, and sequencing to suggest that the plasmid I transfeceted is correct. Notably, there is a great Kozak sequence at the ATG for luciferase.
For #3, there are 3 ATG sites between the ATG of luciferase and the TSS, but they have poor Kozak sequences.
For #4. I did clone the 2.0 kB putative promoter insert into the pGL3-enhancer vector, which is the same as pGL3 basic but includes the SV40 enhancer. This did not improve activity.
Questions:
1. Is there another possibility I am not thinking about?
2. Could a strong splice donor site between the TSS and the ATG for luciferase interfere?
3.Any other ideas on how I can identify the problem rapidly?
Thanks for any consideration.
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