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#1 TracyDuke

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 02:04 PM

Hi All, I used to be able to have cells well sonicated in 1 ml solution. I am currently trying to do ChIP with less amount of cells hence in less volume solution (300 ul). I found the lysates get really dirty after sonication with dark precipitates. Why is that?

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Posted 19 July 2009 - 02:16 PM

View PostTracyDuke, on Jul 16 2009, 03:04 PM, said:

Hi All, I used to be able to have cells well sonicated in 1 ml solution. I am currently trying to do ChIP with less amount of cells hence in less volume solution (300 ul). I found the lysates get really dirty after sonication with dark precipitates. Why is that?
More information on cell type and machine you are using may be helpful.

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 05:54 PM

View PostTracyDuke, on Jul 16 2009, 02:04 PM, said:

Hi All, I used to be able to have cells well sonicated in 1 ml solution. I am currently trying to do ChIP with less amount of cells hence in less volume solution (300 ul). I found the lysates get really dirty after sonication with dark precipitates. Why is that?
Lately I am having the same problem  :D

In my case I am using a bioruptor 200, E14 cell line and they are being sonicated in 1 ml.

When I centrifuge the lysates after the sonication it looks like a thread, with brownish/black color.

Thank you very much in advance.

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Posted 22 November 2009 - 10:08 AM

View PostRadish, on Nov 21 2009, 05:54 PM, said:

View PostTracyDuke, on Jul 16 2009, 02:04 PM, said:

Hi All, I used to be able to have cells well sonicated in 1 ml solution. I am currently trying to do ChIP with less amount of cells hence in less volume solution (300 ul). I found the lysates get really dirty after sonication with dark precipitates. Why is that?
Lately I am having the same problem  :huh:

In my case I am using a bioruptor 200, E14 cell line and they are being sonicated in 1 ml.

When I centrifuge the lysates after the sonication it looks like a thread, with brownish/black color.

Thank you very much in advance.

Interesting.  I used to use a Misonix 3000 with a microtip and got what you're describing and then switched to using a Bioruptor and the dark precipitate went away.  In any case, I haven't seen much of a difference in yield or enrichment between when I was getting the precipitate and when it went away.

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Posted 22 November 2009 - 04:04 PM

View PostKPDE, on Nov 22 2009, 10:08 AM, said:

View PostRadish, on Nov 21 2009, 05:54 PM, said:

View PostTracyDuke, on Jul 16 2009, 02:04 PM, said:

Hi All, I used to be able to have cells well sonicated in 1 ml solution. I am currently trying to do ChIP with less amount of cells hence in less volume solution (300 ul). I found the lysates get really dirty after sonication with dark precipitates. Why is that?
Lately I am having the same problem  :huh:

In my case I am using a bioruptor 200, E14 cell line and they are being sonicated in 1 ml.

When I centrifuge the lysates after the sonication it looks like a thread, with brownish/black color.

Thank you very much in advance.

Interesting.  I used to use a Misonix 3000 with a microtip and got what you're describing and then switched to using a Bioruptor and the dark precipitate went away.  In any case, I haven't seen much of a difference in yield or enrichment between when I was getting the precipitate and when it went away.
I have been furiously trying to get into the fast-ChIP protocol and I can't even get passed the sonication.
Everything always goes completely wrong.
LOL the only way to alleviate my failure is to laugh  :D  


Thank you so much for the feedback, at least this way I Know the it is not an unseen thing.

Edited by Radish, 22 November 2009 - 04:27 PM.





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