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Posted 09 April 2009 - 03:48 PM
Posted 09 April 2009 - 08:34 PM
Posted 09 April 2009 - 08:54 PM
There is a spy amongst us or someone seriously read this thread
Univ of Tokyo to increase number of female researchers, ban evening meetings
Posted 09 April 2009 - 10:25 PM
Huh! U r not kidding rightThere is a spy amongst us or someone seriously read this thread
Univ of Tokyo to increase number of female researchers, ban evening meetings
Meeting starts after 5pm in University of Tokyo!!Then, when do their meetings end?...7 - 8pm!!
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I never have lab meeting that starts after 5pm. I have meeting that ends after 5pm.
Posted 10 April 2009 - 02:31 AM
Posted 10 April 2009 - 04:59 AM
Huh! U r not kidding rightThere is a spy amongst us or someone seriously read this thread
Univ of Tokyo to increase number of female researchers, ban evening meetings
Meeting starts after 5pm in University of Tokyo!!Then, when do their meetings end?...7 - 8pm!!
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I never have lab meeting that starts after 5pm. I have meeting that ends after 5pm.? @ our lab it starts at around 7:30pm and ends . . depends on the contents and discussion - normally 9:30-10:00
If you don't know it, then ask it! Better to ask and look foolish to some than not ask and stay stupid.
Posted 10 April 2009 - 10:56 PM
Odd might be; but that's how we enjoy doing it over here. For me, early morning meetings are something I do no want. Beside, there are other meetings in the morning to start the day and plan for the day. The evening meetings which we call the lab meetings are where we have a lot of teaching-learning and discussion. Someone might present their data and others give their view. Someone might present some interesting paper and make a proposal for another project. We also plan of days ahead - long term and short-term. On top of that, we have dinner together during the meeting. Everyone is relaxed after a long day of work in the lab, hospital, or other part-time works.That is the oddest lab custom I've heard of. I mean, nobody pays real attention at the evening meeting. Morning is the right time, like you come, set your experiment, go to meeting and then continue the experiment.
Huh! U r not kidding rightThere is a spy amongst us or someone seriously read this thread
Univ of Tokyo to increase number of female researchers, ban evening meetings
Meeting starts after 5pm in University of Tokyo!!Then, when do their meetings end?...7 - 8pm!!
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I never have lab meeting that starts after 5pm. I have meeting that ends after 5pm.? @ our lab it starts at around 7:30pm and ends . . depends on the contents and discussion - normally 9:30-10:00
It all depends on the people: I have seen people that just do their jobs at thats it, they are not inspired by what they do. Others are and they can stay very long just because they are intrigued by something.
in general:
I think discrimination based on gender is wrong, however at the moment I do notice some "positive" discrimination in favor of females when I read certain posts. They are starting to bend the rules so females can do a certain job.
And I am not speaking in specific on labworkers or so, but in general. In the army here , when being a female they almost automaticly accept you, even if you are very very bad. Just to get more females in.
A general rule like no meeting after 17.00 seem stupid to me, they should make more general agreements.
At a lab that I visited the women that are pregnant get to pick (o some degree) when they work as long as they do their hours or they are allowed to work more from home out etc... especially when doing a phd or something like that you have a lot of hours that you spend behind a pc searcing for info or you are helping other students etc... well some of those things are easly done at home.
I think the pregnancy is indeed a big problem like Telomerase allready stated.
I once heard of a firm that made the women "sign" a paper stating they werent allowed to become pregnant the first 5 years when they worked there. (its not legal and its not a "real" document, but some sort of verbal agreement they had to agree with or they would be fired and they would simply find some other reason to kick you out)
Posted 15 April 2009 - 09:33 AM
Edited by josse, 15 April 2009 - 09:34 AM.
Posted 20 April 2009 - 07:41 AM
Posted 20 April 2009 - 08:03 AM
I agree...it won't be fun if we don't have at least one to tortureI have seen labs with 100% female population and believe me, it can't be good
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A friend used to say it should be compulsory at least a 3F:1M ratio, otherwise it becomes a extremely twisted working environment....besides, who's gonna do the lifting jobs...
Posted 20 April 2009 - 08:37 AM
But, what I was thinking today was. . how many Lady speakers/presenters are there in conferences you attend. I have not attended many but I can remember only a handful. There got to be good reason for that.,
Posted 20 April 2009 - 02:24 PM
i'd say for the quality of their research rather than their gender.
Posted 20 April 2009 - 02:37 PM
Posted 20 April 2009 - 03:53 PM
i'd say for the quality of their research rather than their gender.
Does this mean people often look at gender before looking at the quality of work?![]()
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If I am Mickey, people would respect me more in research.
I remembered reading from Science or Nature that a researcher converted from female to male, and noticed the difference in people treating her and him.
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