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Troubleshooting Digest, ligation, transformation


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#1 ChrissyFL

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 07:02 AM

I've been working on trying to clone this insert for 2 months now with no success! If I don't get this to work, my PI is going to kick me out of the lab!

I'm using a pCR4 topo vector. I have a G418 tag along with my insert. My original plan was to just cut out the insert and flip its orientation (both ends EcoRI). When I couldn't get that to work, we decided to just cut out the insert and religate the vector without it. I can't get that to work either!

At first I thought that my EcoRI wasn't cutting. But it looks like it does on the gel. I gel extracted the vector, added ligase, and transformed it. I am getting the same amount of colonies on my negative control plate (with no ligase) as I am on the ligation plate. Which leaves me to believe enzyme isn't cutting.. although it looks ok on gel. Suggestions anyone?

Help please!!

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 07:24 AM

Could you be a little more specific? You are cloning a fragment out of your vector? Using Eco you cut out your fragment and try to ligate the backbone vector?

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 07:33 AM

I have a variety of mutants that I need to insert into my vector. I figured the best way is to have the vector with just the G418 tag. So, I cut out the mutant insert and tried to ligate the vector back together without it.

What other details do you need?
Thanks!

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 07:41 AM

Ok just making sure I understand you... ehm cut your agarose gel isolated frament again with Eco to make sure everything is cut. Try to make the negative control really negative!
Or transform after ligation with trean enhancer to gain more colonies?

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 07:44 AM

Here, I just did another digest and it doesn't look pretty! I don't know how to get a pic on here.. lets see if this works..

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4.0 ul DNA (1 ug)
0.5 ul EcoRI
1 ul 10x buffer that came with enzyme
4.5 ul water

Edited by ChrissyFL, 17 March 2009 - 07:59 AM.


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Posted 17 March 2009 - 07:47 AM

can't see anything but cutting 1 ng DNA with so much enzyme is probably affecting the specificity!
Try cutting 1g with 0.5l enzyme in a solution of 20-30L could be helpful?

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 09:41 AM

sorry, 1 ug cut with 0.5 ul enzyme!

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 01:50 PM

Hi,

how big should your vector and insert be? I can see cut vector otherwise why would you have 2 bands? If i was you, i would try to digest less because the upper band (guess that is your backbone) is quite strong and might contain cut and uncut plasmid and then you would get results like yours...

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