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[dersven]

HI!
Would be good to habe a forum where one could discuss about specific software tools. These thing shouldn't be part of the bioinformatics-section.

cu

[mdfenko]

that's what the "be a geek" forum is supposed to be.

[perlmunky]

 mdfenko, on Mar 3 2009, 10:13 AM, said:

that's what the "be a geek" forum is supposed to be.

Is that really the best place? The geek area seems to be used mainly for quotes.

[casandra]

 perlmunky, on Mar 8 2009, 05:31 PM, said:

 mdfenko, on Mar 3 2009, 10:13 AM, said:

that's what the "be a geek" forum is supposed to be.

Is that really the best place? The geek area seems to be used mainly for quotes.

..hmm..the last time I looked, perlmunk, there's only one thread for the quotes...even with a very wide stretch of the imagination, I don't see how one can mix the software-help topics in it....but who knows (perhaps you can )......so where do you suggest we put the software-help forum then?

casey

[perlmunky]

I don't care because I don't need one

[casandra]

 perlmunky, on Mar 8 2009, 06:04 PM, said:

I don't care because I don't need one

Then in the geek subforum is where it shoul be so why look somewhere else ...perhaps YOU can give the help seeing that you're sooo into this bioinformatic/IT cr*p anyways ..oh and a hacker to boot....so the best resource person...

[perlmunky]

I do like helping people ...

I am not a bioinformatician - that is an insult - I can do more than databases and run blast.

Edited by perlmunky, 08 March 2009 - 03:16 PM.

[casandra]

 perlmunky, on Mar 8 2009, 07:14 PM, said:

I do like helping people ...

I am not a bioinformatician - that is an insult - I can do more than databases and run blast.

and I wouldn't know the difference so sorry about ...so what else do you do aside from databases and blast...oh yes, you didn't deny the hacking...but I wouldn't know about that either.....

of course I do know that you like helping people...., you're a valuable membre of this forum, perlmunk...besides, didn't I already say that you can be up for the Albert Schweitzer award?

[perlmunky]

I would like a trip to NY.

If you mean hacking as in hacking then I am guilty. If you however mean hacking as in cracking then you are only slightly correct.

[casandra]

 perlmunky, on Mar 8 2009, 07:49 PM, said:

I would like a trip to NY.

If you mean hacking as in hacking then I am guilty. If you however mean hacking as in cracking then you are only slightly correct.

Hacking, cracking and as long as you can put your digits in, what's the difference, perlmunk? Oh, and you can post your NY photo here ...

[perlmunky]

Several subgroups of the computer underground with different attitudes and aims use different terms to demarcate themselves from each other, or try to exclude some specific group with which they do not agree. Eric S. Raymond advocates that members of the computer underground should be called crackers. Yet, those people see themselves as hackers and even try to include the views of Raymond in what they see as one wider hacker culture, a view harshly rejected by Raymond himself. Instead of a hacker – cracker dichotomy, they give more emphasis to a spectrum of different categories, such as white hat (“ethical hacking”), grey hat, black hat and script kiddie. In contrast to Raymond, they usually reserve the term cracker to refer to black hat hackers, or more generally hackers with unlawful intentions.

Goto: Wikipedia.

Is that any NY photo? I have plenty of those.

[casandra]

 perlmunky, on Mar 9 2009, 02:04 PM, said:

Several subgroups of the computer underground with different attitudes and aims use different terms to demarcate themselves from each other, or try to exclude some specific group with which they do not agree. Eric S. Raymond advocates that members of the computer underground should be called crackers. Yet, those people see themselves as hackers and even try to include the views of Raymond in what they see as one wider hacker culture, a view harshly rejected by Raymond himself. Instead of a hacker – cracker dichotomy, they give more emphasis to a spectrum of different categories, such as white hat (“ethical hacking”), grey hat, black hat and script kiddie. In contrast to Raymond, they usually reserve the term cracker to refer to black hat hackers, or more generally hackers with unlawful intentions.

Goto: Wikipedia.

Is that any NY photo? I have plenty of those.

That's a very good topic perlmunk....is there anything ethical about "hacking"? (but perhaps in the philosophy section.).....and since I'm only partially correct about the "cracking"..I guess you're just a part-time cracker...oh, and any NY photo will do...don't you have the one beside George W? or Batman......

[hobglobin]

For me a cracker is something edible.

[casandra]

 hobglobin, on Mar 9 2009, 05:09 PM, said:

For me a cracker is something edible.

and you crack us up....

[perlmunky]

How would you feel if someone hacked your favorite web forum through a web chat interface? Now if that person discovered a potential exploit and informed the site admin before anyone else discovered the same fault, then that would be a good thing. How about instead of that they started doing naughty things?

Yes, there is very much an ethical hacker movement - consider Anonymous and their campaign against the cult of scientology. They fall under the umbrella of hacktivism. Geeks have power on the web