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#31 toejam

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Posted 29 April 2009 - 01:25 PM

View Posthobglobin, on Apr 29 2009, 06:27 PM, said:

. I still wonder why it's called swine flu and not "Mexican flu" or whatever.
Where is my mask? ;)


please tell me it was not you who came up with this idea. this gets beyond the limit of my tolerance :D :angry: :angry:

"The outbreak of swine flu should be renamed "Mexican" influenza in deference to Muslim and Jewish sensitivities over pork, said an Israeli health official Monday."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/articl...kHrXwwD97QROAG0
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Posted 29 April 2009 - 01:31 PM

View Posttoejam, on Apr 29 2009, 11:25 PM, said:

View Posthobglobin, on Apr 29 2009, 06:27 PM, said:

. I still wonder why it's called swine flu and not "Mexican flu" or whatever.
Where is my mask? ;)


please tell me it was not you who came up with this idea. this gets beyond the limit of my tolerance :D :angry: :angry:

"The outbreak of swine flu should be renamed "Mexican" influenza in deference to Muslim and Jewish sensitivities over pork, said an Israeli health official Monday."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/articl...kHrXwwD97QROAG0


Sorry I didn't wanted to insult you or Mexico. But I guess the flus are named after the place where they are detected first. "Spanish flu" is a common known epidemic. I read the "Mexican flu" in the newspaper today.

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Posted 29 April 2009 - 01:40 PM

i completly understand that it could be called "Mexican flu" since that is where it is most widely spread and there are previous histories like the Spanish flu you mention. however the quote i read and put in the previous post seems very offensive imho. i know it wasn't you, you just happened to say something similar but with a completely different intention.
anyway, i hope it doesn't get even worse. see you around.
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Posted 29 April 2009 - 01:40 PM

View Posttoejam, on Apr 29 2009, 05:25 PM, said:

View Posthobglobin, on Apr 29 2009, 06:27 PM, said:

. I still wonder why it's called swine flu and not "Mexican flu" or whatever.
Where is my mask? ;)


please tell me it was not you who came up with this idea. this gets beyond the limit of my tolerance :D :angry: :angry:

"The outbreak of swine flu should be renamed "Mexican" influenza in deference to Muslim and Jewish sensitivities over pork, said an Israeli health official Monday."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/articl...kHrXwwD97QROAG0

hey tj...c'mon...sorry about this..... we've got confirmed cases too (tho mild ones), read this ...let's hope the doomcasters are not right about this becoming a pandemic...
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Posted 30 April 2009 - 12:26 AM

View Posttoejam, on Apr 30 2009, 06:25 AM, said:

View Posthobglobin, on Apr 29 2009, 06:27 PM, said:

. I still wonder why it's called swine flu and not "Mexican flu" or whatever.
Where is my mask? <_<


please tell me it was not you who came up with this idea. this gets beyond the limit of my tolerance :angry: :angry: :angry:

"The outbreak of swine flu should be renamed "Mexican" influenza in deference to Muslim and Jewish sensitivities over pork, said an Israeli health official Monday."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/articl...kHrXwwD97QROAG0

Hobglobin is also right. I disagree the reason quoted in the paper TJ pointed at but when we look at the last 3 notable pandemics then they have been named after the places.

May be only after it becomes a full-blown pandemic will it be renamed. Does anyone know how the pandemics are named?

BTW, has this virus yet been isolated from a pig?
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Posted 30 April 2009 - 12:51 AM

hi guys,
maybe i put things in a wrong order. hobs is right. and it makes sense that the pandemics are named after the place where they are most devastating.

the WHO has called for phase 5

http://www.who.int/c...9/en/index.html

some cases reported even in Germany (3), Canada (13) and Austria (1) <_<

i don't know if the virus has been isolated from a pig or the samples that are under research are taken only from diseased people. i haven't found scientific-based information about it yet.
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Posted 30 April 2009 - 01:53 AM

Here is a nice blog about the naming of the pandemic.
I'd vote for "North-American Flu" :angry: , but Pigenza is also not bad.
In some countries the name swine flu is unwanted because the swine producers worry about the sales <_< . A even more lousy reason.

Anyway as far as I understand, it's a human disease, the human influenza, and the viruses changed their antigen-composition via antigenic shift from bird flu and swine flu making a new strain. Pigs were only the mixing pot for this exchange of DNA.

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Posted 30 April 2009 - 02:19 AM

View Posthobglobin, on Apr 30 2009, 10:53 AM, said:

Here is a nice blog about the naming of the pandemic.
I'd vote for "North-American Flu" :angry: , but Pigenza is also not bad.
In some countries the name swine flu is unwanted because the swine producers worry about the sales <_< . A even more lousy reason.


talking about swine producers: ~ 300,000 pigs slaughtered in Egypt (a country that hasn't reported any swine flu cases yet...)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30480507/

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Posted 30 April 2009 - 05:56 AM

more news on the influenza.... now there's a videogame which consists on killing pigs with a huge syringe, if anyone's interested this is the link:

http://www.swinefighter.com/

at least Mexicans keep up the good mood:

Mexican $20 pesos bill

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chicken: so you got it too?
pig: so they say

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three little pigs

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improvised face mask

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the guilty of it all

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Posted 30 April 2009 - 11:39 AM

View Posttoejam, on Apr 30 2009, 04:51 AM, said:

hi guys,
maybe i put things in a wrong order. hobs is right. and it makes sense that the pandemics are named after the place where they are most devastating.

the WHO has called for phase 5

http://www.who.int/c...9/en/index.html

some cases reported even in Germany (3), Canada (13) and Austria (1) :angry:

i don't know if the virus has been isolated from a pig or the samples that are under research are taken only from diseased people. i haven't found scientific-based information about it yet.

It's official...the WHO gives it a more kindergartenname <_< ...to appease everyone.....and we've got 27 confirmed cases as of this hour.....

Edited by casandra, 30 April 2009 - 11:41 AM.

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Posted 30 April 2009 - 11:45 AM

View Postcasandra, on Apr 30 2009, 09:39 PM, said:

View Posttoejam, on Apr 30 2009, 04:51 AM, said:

hi guys,
maybe i put things in a wrong order. hobs is right. and it makes sense that the pandemics are named after the place where they are most devastating.

the WHO has called for phase 5

http://www.who.int/c...9/en/index.html

some cases reported even in Germany (3), Canada (13) and Austria (1) :(

i don't know if the virus has been isolated from a pig or the samples that are under research are taken only from diseased people. i haven't found scientific-based information about it yet.

It's official...the WHO gives it a more kindergartenname ;) ...to appease everyone.....and we've got 27 confirmed cases as of this hour.....


A for "arctic"? ;)

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Posted 30 April 2009 - 11:52 AM

View Posthobglobin, on Apr 30 2009, 03:45 PM, said:

View Postcasandra, on Apr 30 2009, 09:39 PM, said:

View Posttoejam, on Apr 30 2009, 04:51 AM, said:

hi guys,
maybe i put things in a wrong order. hobs is right. and it makes sense that the pandemics are named after the place where they are most devastating.

the WHO has called for phase 5

http://www.who.int/c...9/en/index.html

some cases reported even in Germany (3), Canada (13) and Austria (1) :(

i don't know if the virus has been isolated from a pig or the samples that are under research are taken only from diseased people. i haven't found scientific-based information about it yet.

It's official...the WHO gives it a more kindergartenname ;) ...to appease everyone.....and we've got 27 confirmed cases as of this hour.....


A for "arctic"? :(

Ppfftt...yeah right....I was gonna say A for Ándale! ˇÁndale! ˇArriba! ˇArriba.....but tj is gonna get so mad at me again ;)...but I have to add that most of the canadians infected just had their holidays in Mexico..and now we've suspended all flights going there until June...hope it will get better, really...
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Posted 30 April 2009 - 02:21 PM

haha...very funny casandrita....most amazing thing is you put the accents in the right place ;)
maybe the A is for "influenza Apocalyptica"
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Posted 30 April 2009 - 03:27 PM

View Posttoejam, on Apr 30 2009, 06:21 PM, said:

haha...very funny casandrita....most amazing thing is you put the accents in the right place :(
maybe the A is for "influenza Apocalyptica"

hahaha yourself, tj....I can do accents very well... ;) and A for Acapulco.......like it said on the news, the WHO already renamed it (tho I prefer Pigenza)..so that shld appease everyone....except for the poor pigs, so maligned and stigmatised and even condemned to early deaths (literally)...btw, your pics are very funny....

and as the Bioforum Mom, it's my duty to remind everybody to wash hands thoroughly, with soap and lukewarm water preferably with scrubbing, the surgeon-style or until the epidermis falls off.....and most importantly, no kissing of pigs esp mouth to snout.... ;) ... let's all take care guys.....and meanwhile, you can also check out last.fm..The Bioforum group fun and swine-flu-free... :(


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Edited by casandra, 30 April 2009 - 03:55 PM.

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Posted 04 May 2009 - 08:00 AM

Life after death!

solved!
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