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#1 zky

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Posted 25 November 2004 - 10:15 AM

I have some questions about how to blast a siRNA target sequence. I write

here what I think the procedure should be. Please tell me what are your

suggestions about it, especially when you think something is wrong with it. Thank you very much.

1. The database should be "EST". If the organism is mouse, the database

should be "EST_mouse". (Is it right?)
2. It is "7" for "word size". But what should "Expect" be? Which option(s)

should be selected for "choose filter"?
3. In the column of "Options", "organisms" is "Mus musculus" if the

organism is mouse. (is it necessary because the database has been

EST_mouse?)
4. After get the BLAST results, click the blue "U" in the right, check if

all the results come from a same gene (your target gene). But for some

results, there is no blue "U" in the right, then how to check if it is the

target gene or not? Moreover, if there are another genes listed in the

BLAST results, how to decide if the siRNA target sequence should be

filtered out or not? Lie on "E Value" or the amount of nucleotides

homologous to the another genes? What is the threshold of "E Value" or the

amount of homologous nucleotides to decide if the siRNA target sequence should be filtered out or not?

I have just begun to work in RNAi and my English is not very good. I hope, and I look forward to get your suggestions as soon as possible. Thank you very much.

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Posted 25 November 2004 - 12:51 PM

Hello zky,

I assume that you are talking about using NCBI blast tool, right?

If you have selected a target sequence which is around 19-25 nt, you can use the "Search for short, nearly exact matches". The default word size is 7. If you choose to use the regular blastn program, you can also set the word size to 7. For database selection, you can use refseq_rna because refseq represents well all transcribed sequences. Although you can also use EST database which, however, is very redundant and contains sequence errors.
If you choose to use refseq_rna, specify the organism to mouse. For the parameter of "Expect" just use the default.

If a EST hit doesn't have "U", it means that the EST has not been assigned to any Unigene and probably is a singleton, you can just ignore it. If you get hits on ESTs that belong to another unigene, you have to decide how much homology is toleratable for your RNAi experiment. I think the identity should not exceed 70%.

I would suggest that you start your RNAi adventure by using some siRNA design programs which have the blast feature built-in. Those program will take care of target selection, homology exclusion, and finally returns to you all acceptable siRNA targets on the gene of your interest. Many companies provide such tool such as Dhamacon, invitrogen and ambion. You can find all those program here http://www.rnaiweb.c...ools/index.html

Good luck.

Edited by pcrman, 25 November 2004 - 12:53 PM.


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Posted 25 November 2004 - 10:26 PM

Yes, I am using NCBI blast tool. Thank you so much for your help, pcrman. Have a good thanksgiving day!

Edited by zky, 25 November 2004 - 10:30 PM.


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Posted 26 November 2004 - 03:51 PM

hi pcrman,

I have an another question: when I blast, should I use the 21nt (AA19nt) or only 19nt without AA?

Thank you very much.

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Posted 26 November 2004 - 05:57 PM

You can just use the 19 nt sequence without AA.

You are welcome.




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