OKAAAYYY... something seems to have blown up out of proportion here.
Dave, you canít call someone a retard. Firstly, itís rude. Youíre taking a disability and turning it into an insult. Take it back immediately.
Dave, you set this topic up as a debate, and now you start verbally attacking those who disagree with your point of view? Pull your head in. Not everyone thinks like youÖ thatís why there are discussions, to understand other peopleís opinions. Not necessarily to accept them, but to hear them and accept that the world is not made up of just you.
Dave, no one here has said what type of religion they belong to. I have made a point of not liking really religious people, and further explained what I meant by this statement Ö. Yet I have not said what particular faith I belong to. No one in this topic has. Claiming that the people who have responded to your topic are all ďgod-lessĒ is just not on. You have no evidence to base your claim on. You take that back and you apologize for making such a sweeping accusation.
Something you should know, Iím a bioethics tutor at a university. Abortion is a topic that people are very passionate aboutÖ on both sides of the debate. Name calling is not a way to promote your point of view on this topic. Youíre prolife, woopy for you. Youíre prochoice, woopy for you. Donít start slapping each other because of it. Accept that people will disagree with you, if you have a valid to point to make, then make it. Act mature, donít call each other names. Furthermore, I havenít seen any post saying that someone is prochoiceÖ. What I have seen are posts arguing the seemingly contradictory position Bush has taken in regards to life. Being prolife and being pro-war is a position that people will not accept easily. With the idea that being prolife is to preserve a life at all costs, for some people this ideal follows through to the entire lifespan, not just during conception and gestation. This is why people often donít like wars. Dave, accept that people will disagree with you, your life will be much easier.
War is one thing, killing babies is another. Iím assuming that this is still on the topic of abortion. Yes, war is different to abortion. Killing babies is also different to abortion. Read above. People usually donít like war. People especially donít like this warÖ did you see world wide protests. Also, I have yet to meet someone who looks forward to having an abortion. I have issues with people liking these two topics together. One involves a personal decision that affects their life. The other is a public decision that effects countries, millions of people.
No morals whatsoever? Once again, what are you basing this on? Do you even know what the difference is between morals and ethics? Morals are personal, they reflect an individuals own understanding of what they consider acceptable in the world. Ethics are more far out reaching. Calling someone one amoral just because they donít see the world in the same way you do, Dave, is not very nice. You should apologize for this as well.
This was supposed to be an open discussion on the American election. Keep it that way.
If the devil were running in the election, well, Iím sure heíd have a pretty good tax package and a great new health care scheme. But heís not, so weíre discussing Bush and KerryÖ and potentially the other people running the election, and I donít know theyíre names, so ...yeah anyway. Close minded, NOOOOOO. Just because I havenít turned around and said, ďOh youíre so right, Bush is sooo lovely,Ē does not mean Iím close minded. Does not mean anyone on this forum is close minded. Also, Devil is not one of the names on the ballot sheet.
Reading Daveís posts have given me the impression that heís religious. Fine. I wouldnít have called him a religious fanatic. Heís just probush, which is fine. Heís been sort of arguing why heís proBushÖ mainly by pointing out Kerryís faults, but thatís fine too. Heís prolife, Fine. Heís anti-gay marriage, well lots of people are. He hasnít explained why he thinks this, but thatís fine too. Itís his life, he has to live itÖ not me. Itís his decision. Until the last few posts, I was enjoying this topic. It was interesting. Dave has not pushed his religion on anyone, as far as I can tell. I think Dave is not a fanatic, but I donít know him well enough to be sure. I think that that was uncalled forÖ once again name calling is not very nice.
If you havenít been bothered to read all of the above, sorry itís so long. 1. Donít call people names. 2. This is a discussion topic, not a wrestling ring.
Edited by vetticus3, 27 October 2004 - 03:57 PM.