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#1 surgeongirl

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Posted 01 September 2013 - 12:16 AM

        

`I am going to make two statements which are interconnected; Man has to go through a stage of womanhood before he achieves his masculinity: if a woman lives long enough she will be converted into a man.' The differences between man and woman are divided into five categories: Genetic, Anatomical, Intellectual, Psychological (emotional), and Behavior patterns. `We will discuss these differences in detail and we will realize that ultimately there is no difference at all. We will awaken to the possibility of man and woman being part of the same process in different time zones.' Twenty-three pairs of chromosomes are present in all of us out of us: twenty-two pairs are autosomes that are similar in both man and woman. Out of twenty-three pairs, twenty-two pairs are similar irrespective of gender. If these autosomes are similar then they should lead to similar results in man as well as woman. These autosomes are mainly concerned with development of human body that's common in both - man and woman. The twenty-third pair is called sex chromosomes. This is at the root of all differences between man and woman: The pair of sex chromosomes in man is called X and Y, the count for woman is called X and X. In simple words, Male and female are same in the beginning then they simultaneously develop into a female and male. The `X' stops here and a lady remains a lady, but `Y pulls himself further into a male. Till puberty man and woman are same if man lives longer, he can get converted into woman. If woman lives longer, she can get matured into man.

 

 

 

 ’Scientists have somehow missed definitions of gender in human beings,” states Dr. Makarand Fulzele. Insights gained from years of practice as surgeon makes him wonder if indeed we have overlooked facts staring in our face. Nature has a tendency to hide many secrets but at the same time it provides enough clues to unravel its mysteries. Dr. Fulzele picks up loose threads from life to stitch together the theory that man is an extension of woman in his new book, “Man Is the Extension of Woman: Know the Ultimate Truth about Yourself” (published by iUniverse). Dr. Fulzele’s book explores similarities between men and women against the backdrop of their genetic differences, physical variations, and emotional and intellectual dissimilarities. Dr. Fulzele who is a successful surgeon further explains in his book: The main hypothesis I discuss in this book is that, if a woman lives long enough she will be converted into a man physically. A similar thing can also be stated about man. It is wrong to categorize humankind into two genders as it implicates that they are extremely dissimilar and physically opposite to each other. I try to prove that man and woman are just two different stages of one developmental process. And physically they are very similar. The ideas presented may sound unconventional but Dr. Fulzele implores readers to consider his point of view with an open mind. “Your world will not change if you do not agree with me. But if you agree with me, how does it change your world? If more people agree with you and me, how does it change our world? The possibilities are limitless.” About the Author Dr. Makarand Fulzele is a successful surgeon and medical superintendent of a government hospital in Mumbai. He enjoys tapping into hidden and mysterious regions of the human mind, where many strange thoughts occur and get ignored. He is also the author of “Rainbow,” a book similarly dedicated to the spirit of light.

 

I have moved this to a more appropriate section, and will allow it for now. Bob



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Posted 07 September 2013 - 10:07 PM

clues from animal kingdom

AsapposedtoReptiles http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilefor whom Temperature DOES determine sex, once again http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexdetermi...lodiploidy"Many other sex-determination systems exist. In some species of reptiles, including alligators, some turtles, the tuatara, sex is determined by the temperature at which the egg is incubated during a temperature sensitive period." btw Reptiles use a completely different model of Sex chromosomes. "The ZW sex-determination system is found in birds, some reptiles, and some insects and other organisms. The ZW sex-determination system is reversed compared to the XY system: females have two different kinds of chromosomes (ZW), and males have two of the same kind of chromosomes (ZZ)." 



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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:00 PM

 

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Check your title again.

X be converted to Y and vice verca.

Do you think this is the case? Should it not be more about hormones not working anymore as they did before?

(or maybe the production of them)

 

 

BTW: you do know there are species out there that can change their sex.....(completely or just behavior wise)


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Posted 10 September 2013 - 08:57 AM

can it occur ..... as part and parcel of growing process?  



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 09:10 AM

can it occur ..... as part and parcel of growing process?  

can what occur?

The sex change? Yes it can in some animals


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Posted 11 September 2013 - 11:02 AM

let ME REPHRASE  MYSELF

can IT OCCUR IN HUMANS IF NOT COMPLETELY THEN PARTIALLY?



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 06:35 AM

No


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Posted 13 September 2013 - 05:37 AM

In authors word
Many people think that man don’t have menopause. Many orthodox people will use this point to underline the fact that man is superior.Man does not have a definite point where the menopause occurs. He may not show definite sign like menopause in females where she stops menstruating.In old age many men develop gynecomastia. Some develop loss of libido or sexual desire. Some old men suddenly develop phenomenon of losing affinity towards life. Some manifest strange phenomenon of increased libido. But I will call it a cry of dying masculinity. It is self-limiting. May be it is a last try of T to utilize its vanishing resources which is so closely linked with manhood. Hence the menopause is there but it is gradual and subtle. At menopause Physical changes towards opposite gender, start appearing Now the death occurs at this particular juncture. But there is just one thought, what if death is delayed by a considerable time. To what extent these changes will take place?.

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 06:00 AM

In authors word
Many people think that man don’t have menopause. Many orthodox people will use this point to underline the fact that man is superior.Man does not have a definite point where the menopause occurs. He may not show definite sign like menopause in females where she stops menstruating.In old age many men develop gynecomastia. Some develop loss of libido or sexual desire. Some old men suddenly develop phenomenon of losing affinity towards life. Some manifest strange phenomenon of increased libido. But I will call it a cry of dying masculinity. It is self-limiting. May be it is a last try of T to utilize its vanishing resources which is so closely linked with manhood. Hence the menopause is there but it is gradual and subtle. At menopause Physical changes towards opposite gender, start appearing Now the death occurs at this particular juncture. But there is just one thought, what if death is delayed by a considerable time. To what extent these changes will take place?.

As I said before: this is due to horomones..

THe genes themself dont change or are not "broken down".

 

So yes, they come closer to eachother (the "things" that make someone female or male , what we see or perceive,will indeed fade away to some extent)


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Posted 13 September 2013 - 09:22 AM


So yes, they come closer to eachother (the "things" that make someone female or male , what we see or perceive,will indeed fade away to some extent)

 

I'd say from a reproductive point of view both genders develop to neuters in the end...but similar to artificial gender changes you can increase the reproductive phase quite long nowadays with hormonotherapy and whatever other options.


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Posted 18 September 2013 - 09:17 AM

So yes, they come closer to eachother (the "things" that make someone female or male , what we see or perceive,will indeed fade away to some extent)

I'd say from a reproductive point of view both genders develop to neuters in the end...but similar to artificial gender changes you can increase the reproductive phase quite long nowadays with hormonotherapy and whatever other options.

So in todays world with choice of hormones does the blueprint of gene is taking a backseat?

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Posted 19 September 2013 - 08:16 AM

 

 

So yes, they come closer to eachother (the "things" that make someone female or male , what we see or perceive,will indeed fade away to some extent)

I'd say from a reproductive point of view both genders develop to neuters in the end...but similar to artificial gender changes you can increase the reproductive phase quite long nowadays with hormonotherapy and whatever other options.

 

So in todays world with choice of hormones does the blueprint of gene is taking a backseat?

 

surely not, except in a few cases (e.g. artificial gender changes, doping, few diseases), but anyway many hormones have to do with fine tuning and people who mess around there challenge their health...


One must presume that long and short arguments contribute to the same end. - Epicurus
...except casandra's that belong to the funniest, most interesting and imaginative (or over-imaginative?) ones, I suppose.

That is....if she posts at all.


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 07:39 AM

what is your say in this..........
x and y are not dissimilar . In fact they are so similar that y is called x with missing leg. If that is correct then there remain no difference in blue print . if blue print is same how can the structure erected on the basis of this can be different. Only difference must be in arrangement and for a capable mind that is no difference at all . so to say man is just the woman with clitoris enlarged as penis. Vagina stitched to be scrotum and ovaries dropped down from the tummy as testis........(ref. man is the extension of woman)

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 02:16 PM

Blueprint is always a blueprint only. It's advantage is that it's trasmitted sexualy (or.. asexually, but that's another story) to other generations. With few mutations here and there. Blueprint is what stays fixed (more or less) and inherited to next generations.

 

 

However, in any multicellular organism, each cell type, in a specific time frame uses only a portion of it's blueprint, supresses the other, these epigenetic changes are just cell reading only a part of blueprint and ignoring others. Many things changes the blueprints "expression", even in different life cycle part of a cell. Hormones and other signalling molecules can alter the portion of blueprint, that is executed. 

 

 

This can apply to sex determination in several species too, under specific conditions, different portions of blueprint are read. But, these changes can't be inherited, only blueprint can. Also, the ability to change expression of sex determination has to be wired in the blueprint itself, otherwise it could not happed.

 

 

So they just have a note on genetic blueprint "hey, if it's too hot during the egg developement, just forgot this part of chromosome and start expressing that other one, thanks, your genome".


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Posted 05 October 2014 - 09:27 PM

man was warned not to eat the fruit of knowledge but he ate it. Now whatever he research however he research, there still remains something unexplored , first atom then protons and electrons ,then neutrons....positrons ........the research will go on and on  .......when we think its the last it will still get divided






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