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[hobglobin]

 

 

 

I can understand it, however, I still find it a waste and pretty stupid.

Where would you draw the line btw? What with head gear? A helmet? Persnonal or helmets everywhere to take? Same with lab coats? Protective shoes etc...

 

BTW in 3D cinemas it's the same (at least here), you always get new glasses (if you want or not) and can return after watching the film the used ones. I hope they clean and reuse them or at least recycle them somehow, but not sure. Anyway for such large enterprises this seems cheaper than anything else.

 

To be honest: never been to a 3D movie, are you talking about the "paper" kind of glasses or?

 

Same on airplanes, often on international flights they give you trow away earphones... Its a shame how much is trown away in the end.

 

 

unfortunately not...pure plastics...here they look usually like these: https://en.wikipedia.../File:REALD.JPG   just wasted one this evening

and yes it's a throwaway society, not a really sustainable system

Edited by hobglobin, 01 September 2013 - 12:17 PM.

[Phil Geis]

Please temper your criticism for matter that are not within your knowledge or experience.

[pito]

Please temper your criticism for matter that are not within your knowledge or experience.

Is your experience based on only USA companies?

 

 

I am not as experienced as you are, but the companies I did visit or worked at (in europe) they did not really use trow away glasses...

Most of them also used re-usable ear plugs (and also provided trow away plugs).

 

I wonder if there is a difference in approach in companies in Europa vs USA.

 

+ still believe that it has a lot to do with workethics and "trow away ethics" in general.

If people would be more aware of their protection, you would not need so many trow away stuff. If you are also more aware of the need of your security/safety, you would also take care of your personal protective gear...

 

Coming back on your argument that if you provide enough ear plugs (at certain places, free to take) people would wear them faster than when they are not present everywhere (and you are supposed to wear your own). I wonder if you have a paper or some study about this?

Because if people are already "too bored" to take care of their persnonal stuff, I wonder how interested they are in their own safetey and indeed wear them all the time.

 

 

 

About the trow away stuff in cinemas => you can hardly defend this , this is not like in companies where I can undertand your argument.

[Phil Geis]

My experience and observations are international - US, EU, China, Japan and South America.

[pito]

My experience and observations are international - US, EU, China, Japan and South America.

Ok.

 

I guess its because I mostly visited/worked in smaller companies. I guess they are more into saving money and re-using stuff.

[iodine]

Povidine Iodine?  Not sure if it would be cost effective but can be diluted and still effective. As alcohol has deleterious effect on some plastics this may be effective. 

http://en.wikipedia....Povidone-iodine

"This agent exhibits a broad range of microbicidal activity against bacteria, fungi, protozoa, and viruses.   it is efficient also against fungi and viruses (including HIV and Herpes simplex).^[7"

 

[CPRES]

Don't know what would be the best method for you, it all depends upon your facility, your purchasing power, daily requirements, type of plastic, and preferences:

 

You can look up several products here, but below is a specific list of methods used to sterilize plastics:

 

Gas:

Hydrogen peroxide gas plasma

Ozone

Formaldehyde steam 

Chlorine dioxide

Ethylene oxide

Nitrogen dioxide

 

eh, well, no more links, just do the search..

 

Chemicals:

Peracetic acid

Ethanol

Performic Acid

Glutaraldehyde 

Hydrogen Peroxide 

Ortho-phthalaldehyde 

 

Radiation:

Infrared radiation 

Ionizing radiation

Microwave (Heat)

 

Heat:

Autoclave

Dry heat

 

[Phil Geis]

Please be aware that a number of these are not sterilizing treatments (e.g. ethanol, UV, microwave) and others establish conditions that wil compromise the item and offer risk in application.  It is also important to understand the role of "soil" and design of t heobject in getting complete kill.