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TA cloning: ligation problem or toxic construct?

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#1 DrLeo

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 08:02 PM

Dear all,

I tried to ligate my insert (520bp) into TOPO vector (TA cloning).


My PCR product has concentration of 30~40 ng/mcl


I used the mixture as below:



PCR product 3 mcl


TOPO vector 0.3 mcl


Salt 1 mcl


D.W 5.7 mcl



Incubate at RT for 30 min


Than transfer the mixture into Competent cell.


However, I just got the blue colonies, without any white colony. I did try 3 times with the same results.



Previously, I did the same protocol for another construct (625bp), The results were good.


I don't know what could cause the problem for this new construct...


Please give my some suggestions.


Thank you so much!



#2 bigudukaz

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 12:53 AM

were you using a kit for ligation? any ligase present? What polimerase used in PCR? Was the PCR product cleaned up (column or gel extraction) before using it and how the concentration of it was calculated/measured?

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 10:54 AM

Clean your PCR product. TOPO shouldn't religate on itself. Sounds like excess ATPs left over from PCR are what's inserting. And be sure you're using Taq polymerase.

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 02:44 PM

There is no ATP in a pcr reaction, only dATP (which perhaps is what you meant). I'd go for the toxic product theory myself, especially if your positive control (your other cloning) works.

#5 DrLeo

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 05:55 PM

Hi all,
Thank you for suggestiones. Here are some more details:
I used EX Taq polymerase for PCR, after that I did gel elution to get the inserts.
According to the protocol of TOPO vector, the ligation does not require any ligase.

And, I could get the blue colonies, but not white colonies.

If the constructs were toxic, should I incubate the agar plate at room temperature? Or is there any way to solve this problem?
Thank you again....




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