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[jasmina]

I have sent a resume letter and my CV for  a postdoc position advertised on website.one week ago.
but, I didn't receive a reply yet !
the application requires a letter of motivation, CV and 3 referee recommandations.
I decided to send first a resume of one page to introduce myself, my interest to the position and the work I did and publications ..
Once the employer gives a positive feedback, I can ask my referees the letters.
So, now, I wonder if i can contact the employer again and ask his opinion about my application, if he considered it or ...something like that..
the same situation happens to me in 2 other applications: I have only shown my interest and sent a brief statement of my work and asked if the position is stil available, but I didnt get a reply.
I don't know if something wrong on the way I do,whether I have to behave differently for postdoc applications...
what do you advice me??
thanks.

[hobglobin]

Wait..if they got dozens or hundreds of applications, they surely need some time to work through this...I heard of a position (but phd) where the candidate got a reply after 2 months...

[jasmina]

ok, thanks !

[pito]

hobglobin, on 07 January 2013 - 12:49 PM, said:

Wait..if they got dozens or hundreds of applications, they surely need some time to work through this...I heard of a position (but phd) where the candidate got a reply after 2 months...

I understand it, but is it really that hard to simple send an email stating: "we received your email, we will come back to you when we reviewed it".
At least then you know they received it.

I know: in the end, they received it too even if they didnt reply. But it makes it easier for the ones sending papers, psychologically speaking its nicer to have received a personal message saying they got it.

[jasmina]

in fact, I also agree with you, because I have received some replies to my mails within 1 to 2 days, till 3 days not up to one week !

[jasmina]

since It was after christmas , so probably some holidays ...
I will see if getting any reply..

[Curtis]

just call them

[hobglobin]

pito, on 07 January 2013 - 01:25 PM, said:

I understand it, but is it really that hard to simple send an email stating: "we received your email, we will come back to you when we reviewed it".
At least then you know they received it.

I know: in the end, they received it too even if they didnt reply. But it makes it easier for the ones sending papers, psychologically speaking its nicer to have received a personal message saying they got it.

sure it's nicer but if there are many applications it becomes a time-consuming job...anyway for important emails one should use the automatic "Delivery Status Notification" option, many email programs and email services offer...

[pito]

hobglobin, on 08 January 2013 - 08:25 AM, said:

pito, on 07 January 2013 - 01:25 PM, said:

I understand it, but is it really that hard to simple send an email stating: "we received your email, we will come back to you when we reviewed it".
At least then you know they received it.

I know: in the end, they received it too even if they didnt reply. But it makes it easier for the ones sending papers, psychologically speaking its nicer to have received a personal message saying they got it.

sure it's nicer but if there are many applications it becomes a time-consuming job...anyway for important emails one should use the automatic "Delivery Status Notification" option, many email programs and email services offer...

true, but be honest: you really believe that for a post doc job there would be so many people emailing?

I can not believe that.

I dunno, I guess its just how people see it. I find it important to answer , even if its just to say: received it.

I know that professors receive many emails, but for the more important ones, they should either use something like you said (automatic reply) or reply themself.

[hobglobin]

pito, on 08 January 2013 - 08:27 AM, said:

hobglobin, on 08 January 2013 - 08:25 AM, said:

pito, on 07 January 2013 - 01:25 PM, said:

I understand it, but is it really that hard to simple send an email stating: "we received your email, we will come back to you when we reviewed it".
At least then you know they received it.

I know: in the end, they received it too even if they didnt reply. But it makes it easier for the ones sending papers, psychologically speaking its nicer to have received a personal message saying they got it.

sure it's nicer but if there are many applications it becomes a time-consuming job...anyway for important emails one should use the automatic "Delivery Status Notification" option, many email programs and email services offer...

true, but be honest: you really believe that for a post doc job there would be so many people emailing?

I can not believe that.

I dunno, I guess its just how people see it. I find it important to answer , even if its just to say: received it.

I know that professors receive many emails, but for the more important ones, they should either use something like you said (automatic reply) or reply themself.

But the trick is that you have to switch on this option yourself...e.g. this
and the numbers of postdocs applying surely depends on the position, but surely some profs are just to lazy even for one

[pito]

hobglobin, on 08 January 2013 - 08:37 AM, said:

pito, on 08 January 2013 - 08:27 AM, said:

hobglobin, on 08 January 2013 - 08:25 AM, said:

pito, on 07 January 2013 - 01:25 PM, said:

I understand it, but is it really that hard to simple send an email stating: "we received your email, we will come back to you when we reviewed it".
At least then you know they received it.

I know: in the end, they received it too even if they didnt reply. But it makes it easier for the ones sending papers, psychologically speaking its nicer to have received a personal message saying they got it.

sure it's nicer but if there are many applications it becomes a time-consuming job...anyway for important emails one should use the automatic "Delivery Status Notification" option, many email programs and email services offer...

true, but be honest: you really believe that for a post doc job there would be so many people emailing?

I can not believe that.

I dunno, I guess its just how people see it. I find it important to answer , even if its just to say: received it.

I know that professors receive many emails, but for the more important ones, they should either use something like you said (automatic reply) or reply themself.

But the trick is that you have to switch on this option yourself...e.g. this
and the numbers of postdocs applying surely depends on the position, but surely some profs are just to lazy even for one

Ok, but I was more thinking about an automated email from the receiver itself.
Because this just tells you its ben sent, not that it has been "opened" (read). Or does it only send a reply if the email is in fact opened?

ANd yeah, a lot depend on the attitude of the professor.

[jasmina]

I have contacted the doctor today telling him that I sent my cv and letter and asking whether he took look  .
still no reply.

[toejam]

the other thing you should consider is that sometimes they only contact the shortlisted candidates. I know from personal experience... You can always drop them an email, should do no harm.

[leelee]

pito, on 08 January 2013 - 08:27 AM, said:

true, but be honest: you really believe that for a post doc job there would be so many people emailing?

I can not believe that.

I think it is definitely feasible that dozens or even a hundred or more applications would arrive for a single job. We advertised two research assistant positions 3 years ago, and had over 80 applicants (several who had PhDs).

Another lab advertising for a post-doc position had more than 50 applications from around the globe. Some of them were bogus (e.g. people who did not even remotely fit the selection criteria, one didn't even have a PhD....) but most were legitimate.

I agree it is better to notify applicants that you have received their paperwork, and to then inform them if they weren't successful, but in reality it is very rare that any employer would do this (this is true in science and in the rest of the job market). It's a tough ol' world!

As for what I think I would have done in jasmina's position. I would have waited until a 2 weeks to a month after the job advert closing date (regardless of if I submitted my application earlier than that) and then I would have sent a follow up email.

[jasmina]

I forgot to inform that finally the employer sent an email with mentioning dear applicant,.that they check the experience I have and It  seems that ist not enough for their requirements.