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#1 science

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Posted 09 December 2009 - 09:29 PM

Hi all,

I am doing Real Time RT PCR for expression study. I made cDNA from 500ng total RNA. This cDNA used for primer efficiency study by doing 10 times dilution. I took 0.05, 0.5, 5 ng and 50 ng cDNA (quantity is based on total RNA) as termplate for real time PCR (SYBR GREEN). I got good amplification graph, and the correlation of log2 value of cDNA and Ct value is around 0.99. But the slope I am getting is just -0.9 to -1.1. This is the same for 4 primers I have analysed. I could not understand what went wrong.Please suggest me what I should do to rectify this problem.

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Posted 10 December 2009 - 02:08 AM

Check ur Ct value!!!
and good amplification curve means??? did u back calculate the RNA values from the graph??!!
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Posted 10 December 2009 - 09:03 PM

Hi,
in my work, each reaction had no non specific amplification and the amplification curves were seperated equally without any overlap. The values of one primer I have got are here.

Log2 cDNA Threshold cycle (Ct)
-4.321928095 31.59
-1 27.33
2.321928095 24.55
5.64385619 20.02

and the slope is -1.0256

how to back calculate? and I did not take any standard along with reaction. Is standard need to be taken for this study?

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Posted 16 December 2009 - 01:23 AM

View Postscience, on Dec 11 2009, 01:03 PM, said:

Hi,
in my work, each reaction had no non specific amplification and the amplification curves were seperated equally without any overlap. The values of one primer I have got are here.

Log2 cDNA Threshold cycle (Ct)
-4.321928095 31.59
-1 27.33
2.321928095 24.55
5.64385619 20.02

and the slope is -1.0256

how to back calculate? and I did not take any standard along with reaction. Is standard need to be taken for this study?


Erm, are you sure the -0.9-1.1 is the slope or efficiency? What you are doing IS a standard curve. But I suggest doing 5 or 10 times serial dilution of cDNA volume instead of taking cDNA mass. Also, for cDNA, make sure you use less than 10% of your total reaction volume.

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 12:30 AM

Thanks Chris,
But I figured out the mistake, I had done 10 times dilution and took Log2, instead, when I took log10 of cDNA dilution, got a slope near 3.1-3.4. Hope there problem is solved.........

Thanks for all for the support...........

View Postchrisbelle, on Dec 16 2009, 06:23 PM, said:

View Postscience, on Dec 11 2009, 01:03 PM, said:

Hi,
in my work, each reaction had no non specific amplification and the amplification curves were seperated equally without any overlap. The values of one primer I have got are here.

Log2 cDNA Threshold cycle (Ct)
-4.321928095 31.59
-1 27.33
2.321928095 24.55
5.64385619 20.02

and the slope is -1.0256

how to back calculate? and I did not take any standard along with reaction. Is standard need to be taken for this study?


Erm, are you sure the -0.9-1.1 is the slope or efficiency? What you are doing IS a standard curve. But I suggest doing 5 or 10 times serial dilution of cDNA volume instead of taking cDNA mass. Also, for cDNA, make sure you use less than 10% of your total reaction volume.

Chris






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