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The conditions essential for creating man or animal. - The way how God creates man and animal (Sep/15/2007 )

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eanassir.

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QUOTE (eanassir @ Sep 16 2007, 03:48 AM)
1. The availability of decayed organic substance: the black putrid mud or wet soil. This substance is the decayed corpses of man or animal.


If all human and animal life comes from decayed corpses of pre-existing humans/animals, how was the first human/animal created if there were no corpses lying around? Maybe god borowed one from one of his friends.


QUOTE (eanassir @ Sep 16 2007, 03:48 AM)
2. The availability of little water; so that the result will be somewhat dry mud or wet soil. Much water will interfere with the coherence of the parts of the structure undergoing the process of creation.


What do you call "little water"? The amount of water in a human body is ~70%. Is that little?
Or maybe you mean that if there's too much water cells will lyse because of turgor pressure! Maybe god could have given us cell walls so he could have created us while being in his pool. As he forgot that he had to settle with working in the mud... Maybe he only thought of that afterwards, when he invented plants. Oh no, wait, weren't plants invented before, according to the scriptures? I'm getting a headache...


QUOTE (eanassir @ Sep 16 2007, 03:48 AM)
3. Complete darkness: like in a grave or the womb (in case of the embryo). Sun rays will prevent the cell division of the body in the process of creation.


Yes, maybe god used to much deodorant and there was no ozone layer back when he invented us. UVs are bad for DNA.


QUOTE (eanassir @ Sep 16 2007, 03:48 AM)
4. Complete quietness and calmness: There should not be any movement, whatever mild it may be; because it will disrupt the structure being formed.


Well, I suppose those "laws" are also valid for when we decide to procriate, since we are creating new life. And of course, hundreds of sperm cells banging their "heads" against an egg wall is a very calm process. Fair enough that the embryo is only created after this occurence, but it's enough to give the egg some entropy... Not to mention the whole "procriation" process...


QUOTE (eanassir @ Sep 16 2007, 03:48 AM)
5. The creation will take at least 40 days; less than that will lead the soul cannot be formed and last inside the created mould.


40 days?? That's way past tantric!

-Ambrósio-

God said . . No Discussion Please. . . praise the almighty.

-Bungalow Boy-

[quote name='Ambrósio' date='Sep 17 2007, 07:48 AM' post='111926']

"If all human and animal life comes from decayed corpses of pre-existing humans/animals, how was the first human/animal created if there were no corpses lying around? Maybe god borowed one from one of his friends."

I say: God creates whatever He please; this is the way in general; God -be glorified- brings the sun from the East, but He can do whatever He likes.

"What do you call "little water"? The amount of water in a human body is ~70%. Is that little?
Or maybe you mean that if there's too much water cells will lyse because of turgor pressure! Maybe god could have given us cell walls so he could have created us while being in his pool. As he forgot that he had to settle with working in the mud... Maybe he only thought of that afterwards, when he invented plants. Oh no, wait, weren't plants invented before, according to the scriptures? I'm getting a headache..."

It means the least amount of water required; of course even a rock may contain some water, eventhough it appears solid. The plant was created before the animal.
God - be exalted - said in the Quran 16: 40
{إِنَّمَا قَوْلُنَا لِشَيْءٍ إِذَا أَرَدْنَاهُ أَن نَّقُولَ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُونُ}
The explanation: (40. The only words We say to a thing, when We desire it, is that We say to it: "Be", and it is [as We desire.] )


"Yes, maybe god used to much deodorant and there was no ozone layer back when he invented us. UVs are bad for DNA."

I say: Glory to God Who created you and me and all humans inside the womb of mothers.


"Well, I suppose those "laws" are also valid for when we decide to procriate, since we are creating new life. And of course, hundreds of sperm cells banging their "heads" against an egg wall is a very calm process. Fair enough that the embryo is only created after this occurence, but it's enough to give the egg some entropy... Not to mention the whole "procriation" process..."

I say: this is a different subject.


"40 days?? That's way past tantric!"
I say: For any process in the universe, there should be time for its phases.

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QUOTE (Bungalow Boy @ Sep 17 2007, 08:20 AM)
God said . . No Discussion Please. . . praise the almighty.


I say: All prise and glorifications is due to God Almighty; He is Worty of all praise and gratitude.
God - be glorified - said in the Quran 38: 29
{كِتَابٌ أَنزَلْنَاهُ إِلَيْكَ مُبَارَكٌ لِّيَدَّبَّرُوا آيَاتِهِ وَلِيَتَذَكَّرَ أُوْلُوا الْأَلْبَابِ}
The explanation: ([This Quran is] a Scripture that We have revealed to you [Mohammed], full of blessing, that they may ponder its revelations, and that men of understanding may reflect.)

eanassir
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-eanassir-

Whatever little faith I had in God, am losing it now . . .

-Bungalow Boy-

QUOTE (Bungalow Boy @ Sep 17 2007, 09:09 PM)
Whatever little faith I had in God, am losing it now . . .



God - be exalted - said in the Quran 5: 86

{وَلَيَزِيدَنَّ كَثِيرًا مِّنْهُم مَّا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكَ مِن رَّبِّكَ طُغْيَانًا وَكُفْرًا فَلاَ تَأْسَ عَلَى الْقَوْمِ الْكَافِرِينَ }
The explanation: (But that [which] has been revealed to you [Mohammed, in the Quran] from your Lord will surely increase much many of them in arrogance and unbelief; so grieve not for a people who unbelieve [neither in the Quran, nor in you.]

eanassir.

-eanassir-

All forms of religions are among the most wasteful human activities in human history, period. People are made to believe a god like figure who has the power to change everything, except that more and more people are running away from it each and every day. Of course some social activities are included to attract people's attention which may make some religions, certainly not all, appear to be positive elements in the society, but do we really need these organizations to carry out such missions?

In my view, religions of all forms are as bad as smoking and chemical abuse. In may be hard to take for many of you, but I didn't come to this view easily.

-genehunter-1-

You really should use your time to convince your Suny and Shi'it brothers not to kill each other and you as a whole not to hate the rest of us in the world as matter of fact.

-genehunter-1-

QUOTE (genehunter-1 @ Sep 22 2007, 07:10 AM)
All forms of religions are among the most wasteful human activities in human history, period. People are made to believe a god like figure who has the power to change everything, except that more and more people are running away from it each and every day. Of course some social activities are included to attract people's attention which may make some religions, certainly not all, appear to be positive elements in the society, but do we really need these organizations to carry out such missions?

In my view, religions of all forms are as bad as smoking and chemical abuse. In may be hard to take for many of you, but I didn't come to this view easily.


I say: both the believer and the atheist will live their life in the World; but after death, who will lose in case there is a second ethereal life in the next world?
The aim of the disbeliever and the atheist is to be out of responsibility concerning the commandments of God, particularly the First Commandment: that God is One without any associte.
God - be exalted - said in the Quran 75: 5
{يَسْأَلُ أَيَّانَ يَوْمُ الْقِيَامَةِ . بَلْ يُرِيدُ الْإِنسَانُ لِيَفْجُرَ أَمَامَهُ}
The explanation: (5. But man aims [from his denial of the sending-forth to the Hereafter] to go on as a profligate.
6. He questions[with his denial]: "When is the Doomsday!?" )

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-eanassir-